From cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE Tue Sep 5 08:41:08 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 08:41:06 -0500; AA25326 Received: from odin.pat.dcu.ie by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 08:41:01 -0500 Received: from valkyrie.dcu.ie (valkyrie.pat.dcu.ie) by odin.pat.dcu.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03097; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:29:50 BST Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:29:50 BST From: cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE (Yining Chen) Message-Id: <9509051329.AA03097@odin.pat.dcu.ie> To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: A letter to Yang Fu Jia Hi, everyone. As you mihgt know, Fudan now has an official home page, but some what humble and certainly does not match her at all. We are going to send the president of Fudan an email requesting them to build one that is more informative, and nicely organised. Attached with this email, please read the letter we are going to send. And please send me your suggestions if you think it needs to be revised. Also, if you agree with me about the home page, send me your name, current school, and year and major in Fudan, like this: Yining Chen, Dublin City University, Fudan Chemistry '89 Thank you very much for your cooperation. Best Regards Yining Chen -----------Attached Letter--------------- Dear President Yang, We are overseas Fudan alimuni students who care very much about our beloved university. As China connecting to the internet at an astonishing speed, we are sad and disappointed to find out that Fudan, being one of the most famous universities in China, and one of the best in the world, still does not have one elegant official home page. Nowadays, the information superhighway is one of the main resources from which people obtain useful information. Most of the famous American and European universities now use world wide web and home pages as a means to advertising and introducing themselves. As Fudan't students, we have waited very long for this official home page(URL http://ns.fudan.sh.cn) to come out, and only too disappointed to find out that it is very poorly organised. The English needs to be polished, and the contents look like to be just copied down from an introductory booklet. We understand that whoever made that home page must have put much engery into it, but such a home page as Fudan's official representative on internet is far from satisfactory and disgraceful both to Fudan univeristy herself and the students. As the other top universities in China, like Tsinghua university and Peking university are now all equipped with very nicely structured and organised home pages, we strongly ask Fudan to seriously consider developing a home page that could match herself. We believe that under the cooperation of the English department and computer science department, this will be easily achieved. It is well worth it to point out that home pages are playing a more and more important role nowadays. Even though Fudan is very famous, still many foreigners don't know much about her, and home page can be used as a window towards outside world. Should there be any help needed from us, we would only be very delighted to offer our help. Sincerely Yining Chen, Dublin City University, Fudan Chemistry '89 From qic@twist.nrl.navy.mil Tue Sep 5 12:22:25 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 12:22:24 -0500; AA02405 Received: from net.nrl.navy.mil by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 12:22:21 -0500 Received: by twist.nrl.navy.mil (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @net.nrl.navy.mil:fudan@cs.wisc.edu id AA06164; Tue, 5 Sep 95 13:25:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 13:25:45 -0700 From: qic@twist.nrl.navy.mil (Keith Chen) Message-Id: <9509052025.AA06164@twist.nrl.navy.mil> To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: A letter to Yang Fu Jia Hi all Fudaners: Fudan does have an official homepage: http://www.fudan.sh.cn:80/. Please also note that the Fudan Alumni Club in the Greater Washington and Baltimore Area has also a home site: http://dsatpd2.umd.edu/fudan/. Please visit us. Keith CHEN From cyf@is.titech.ac.jp Tue Sep 5 12:48:58 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 12:48:56 -0500; AA02567 Received: from nsc.is.titech.ac.jp by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 12:48:53 -0500 Received: from lemon.is.titech.ac.jp (lemon.is.titech.ac.jp [131.112.150.2]) by nsc.is.titech.ac.jp (8.6.11+2.4W/8.6.11/is0.4/nsc) with SMTP id BAA03523; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:57:23 +0900 Received: by lemon.is.titech.ac.jp (4.1/saslab-0/Ku/TM) id AA27736; Wed, 6 Sep 95 02:04:17+090 Message-Id: <9509051704.AA27736@lemon.is.titech.ac.jp> To: cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE (Yining Chen) Cc: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: A letter to Yang Fu Jia In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 1995 14:29:50 -0000." <9509051329.AA03097@odin.pat.dcu.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 02:04:17 +0900 From: Yafeng Chen hi, Mr.Chen Yining, It is a good idea to send a letter to President Yang for Fudan's WWW home page. I also think fudan should have an informative, well organized home page as a famous university. But comparing to the WWW home page, I felt much disappointed about Fudan's network. It seems that until now Fudan has not a systematic campus network, although I heard a lot of Fudan related email address: "fudan.edu.cn", "fudan.ihep.ac.cn", "ns.fudan.sh.cn" (Oh... That's chaos!) I have also contacted some teachers in Fudan, most of them know nothing about internet, especilly what interests they can get if they have right to use internet. (Two years ago, when someone required President Hua Zhongyi to construct a campus LAN, President Hua asked inversely that who would give us shared information if we constructed it. At that time, Fudan gave it up and so later on JiaoTong won against Fudan to construct the Shanghai's local network. ) My classmates who are pursuing Ph.D course in Fudan cannot also use internet. Their bosses only have email addresses, also and can not use "ftp" , to see "news", although most of them are the authorities in some area. We all overseas Fudan alimuni know that how hard people are doing research without get any information from internet nowadays. So I think you should rewrite that letter to let President Yang to promote constructing a systematic Fudan campus network. Comparing to other country's scientists, chinese scientists are much smart and much diligent, they only lack of informtion. So constructing network is the most urgent and the most valuable thing now. Although it may cost a lot, but it can be gotten much more. As well, Fudan also should have a regular WWW home page to let any one in the world to know it. Best Wishes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yafeng Chen, Tokyo Institute of Technology , CS'87 From xuelei@cuphy3.phys.columbia.edu Tue Sep 5 19:34:33 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 19:34:31 -0500; AA00802 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 95 19:34:29 -0500 Received: from phys.columbia.edu by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 05 Sep 95 20:34:52 EDT Received: by phys.columbia.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22189; Tue, 5 Sep 95 20:34:28 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:18:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Xuelei Chen Subject: Re: A letter to Yang Fu Jia To: Yining Chen Cc: Fudan mailing list In-Reply-To: <9509051329.AA03097@odin.pat.dcu.ie> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a little suspicious about sending this letter. I think the best homepages can not be made by a formal commitee, but only by enthusiastic persons. If we really have a formal organization in charge of making an official homepage, it would probabily be dull, and the writer would not listen to criticism at all. Actually, I think the current "official" homepage, although far from perfect, is not that bad either. If we really should send this letter, we should probabily suggest president Yang either authorize some students in the university or some alumni to make the homepage, and ask the university to provide help. The point is, if this task is given to one or several indviduals, they would most likely improve it all the time, and respond to suggestions and criticisms very quickly, if it is given to some department, they would just finish the job without much care. By the way, had any suggestions be sent to the writer of the current homepage? Xuelei Chen Physics BS'91 On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Yining Chen wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > As you mihgt know, Fudan now has an official home page, but some what humble > and certainly does not match her at all. We are going to send the president of > Fudan an email requesting them to build one that is more informative, and > nicely organised. Attached with this email, please read the letter we are going > to send. And please send me your suggestions if you think it needs to be revised. Also, if you agree with me about the home page, send me your name, current > school, and year and major in Fudan, like this: > > Yining Chen, Dublin City University, Fudan Chemistry '89 > > Thank you very much for your cooperation. > > Best Regards > > Yining Chen > > -----------Attached Letter--------------- From sackmann@zedat.fu-berlin.de Wed Sep 6 13:44:13 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 6 Sep 95 13:44:11 -0500; AA18136 Received: from fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 6 Sep 95 13:40:08 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) from sackmann.dialup.fu-berlin.de (160.45.217.100) with smtp id ; Wed, 6 Sep 95 20:38:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Sender: From: "Robin Sackmann" Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:35:36 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) Help request Reply-To: sackmann@zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Confirm-Reading-To: sackmann@zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Dear users of Fudan list, I am urgently looking for a former student of Fudan University. Her name is SU Chengpei. She was studying physics at Fudan until 1989 and then went to the University of Rhode Island (USA) to write her PhD thesis in physics. Since then I lost contact to her. I already contacted the University of Rhode Island's physics department, found her former professor and was told by him that she got married a while ago and then moved to California to join her husband there. Since then, she is 'da xialuo bu ming'! I couldn't find anybody at University of Rhodes Island who is still in contact with her. Therefore, I would be very grateful to you for any hints on how to get in touch with her or maybe even for her address. Thank you very much. Robin Sackmann FREIE UNIVERSITAET BERLIN Berlin, Germany. Maybe she is, or was, one of your students. If you know anything about her whereabouts, I would be very grateful if you could pass this information on to me. Sorry for bothering you with this. Yours sincerely, Robin Sackmann FREIE UNIVERSITAET BERLIN Berlin, Germany From FZHANG@commerce.otago.ac.nz Thu Sep 7 18:39:26 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:39:24 -0500; AA13166 Received: from legolas.otago.ac.nz by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:39:09 -0500 Received: from jupiter.otago.ac.nz (jupiter.otago.ac.nz [139.80.180.14]) by legolas.otago.ac.nz (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA00260 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:44:14 +1200 Received: from JUPITER/MAILQUEUE by jupiter.otago.ac.nz (Mercury 1.20); 8 Sep 95 11:38:27 +1100 Received: from MAILQUEUE by JUPITER (Mercury 1.20); 8 Sep 95 11:38:25 +1100 From: "Feng ZHANG" To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:38:22 GMT+1200 Subject: Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <19BD47137D1@jupiter.otago.ac.nz> Hello there, Point system of New Zealand immigration policy will be rearranged on the 1st October 1995, and the detailed information about policy adjustment was reported by Feng ZHANG (BS'79-83, MS'83-86, Comp Sci, Fudan Univ) as follows: 1. THE PREREQUISITES 1.1. English Language Current Policy: Only the principal applicant must meet a minimum standard of English language. Adjusted Policy: Principal applicants to meet a minimum standard of English, demonstrated by a pass in IELTS General Module (level 5). Non-principal applicants aged 16 and over to meet the same standard of English or pay a fee of $20,000 (refundable in certain circumstances). 1.2. Character & Health Current Policy: Applicants are required to be of good character and meet health requirements. Adjusted Policy: No change to current policy. 2. HUMAN CAPITAL FACTORS 2.1 Qualifications Current Policy: 2 to 15 points are allocated, with a weighting in favour of academic degrees (especially science, technical and engineering). Adjusted Policy: Flatter points structure, with a 10 point minimum requirement. o Any equivalent to a base degree, trade or three year diploma/certificate gains 10 points. o Any advanced trade or professional qualification gains 11 points. o Any equivalent of a Masters or better gains 12 points. Where applicable, statutory registration required. 3. EMPLOYABILITY FACTORS 3.1 Job Offer Current Policy: An offer of skilled employment gains three points. Adjusted Policy: An offer of skilled employment gains five points. Greater emphasis will be placed on validation. 3.2 Work Experience & Age Current Policy: 1--10 points depending on work experience and age. Maximum age is 55 years. Adjusted Policy: No change to basic structure, but more flexible approach to recognising relevant pre-qualification work experience. Minimum of two years work experience required to qualify for work experience points. Maximum age is 55 years. 4. SETTLEMENT FACTORS 4.1 Maximum Points Current Policy: Maximum is 5 points. Adjusted Policy: Maximum is 7 points. 4.2 Settlement Funds Current Policy: Two points for settlement funds of $100,000 (and up to three points for investment funds of up to $300,000). Adjusted Policy: Up to two points for transferred and readily available settlement funds of $100,000--$200,000. No points for investment funds. 4.3 Spousal Human Capital Current Policy: Only the principal applicant is assessed against the quality criteria. Adjusted Policy: Principal applicants with a spouse or partner with high human capital may gain up to two additional points. o One point for base degree, trade or three year diploma or certificate. o Two points for any advanced qualification. 4.4 New Zealand Work Experience Current Policy: Not specifically recognised under current policy. Adjusted Policy: Up to two additional points for New Zealand work experience gained on a lawful permit. 4.5 Sponsorship Current Policy: Applicants may gain three points for community sponsorship and two points for family sponsorship. Adjusted Policy: Family sponsorship may gain three points. No points for community sponsorship. 5. COMMITMENT TO NEW ZEALAND 5.1 Returning Residents Visas Current Policy: No single objective measure of whether someone has been resident in New Zealand. Adjusted Policy: Status of all migrating family members linked to the tax residence status of the principal applicant. From jhan@fx.com Mon Sep 25 18:43:59 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 18:43:54 -0500; AA15962 Received: from fxd.fx.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 18:43:52 -0500 Received: from fxgrp.fx.com (fxgrp2.fx.com) by fx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17055; Mon, 25 Sep 95 16:40:18 PDT Received: by fxgrp.fx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07410; Mon, 25 Sep 95 16:41:50 PDT Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 16:41:50 PDT From: jhan@fx.com (Jimmy Han) Message-Id: <9509252341.AA07410@fxgrp.fx.com> To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Help: Fudan Alumni Mailing list Hi, I got an error (Error 404) when I try to access Fudan Overseas Alumni Mailing List on http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~mshen/fudan.html. Anybody know what's wrong? -Jimmy Han From cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE Tue Sep 26 06:01:59 1995 Received: from cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 06:01:55 -0500; AA21596 Received: from odin.pat.dcu.ie by cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 06:01:45 -0500 Received: from valkyrie.dcu.ie (valkyrie.pat.dcu.ie) by odin.pat.dcu.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05528; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:57:49 BST Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:57:49 BST From: cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE (Yining Chen) Message-Id: <9509261057.AA05528@odin.pat.dcu.ie> To: fudan Subject: Re: Help: Fudan Alumni Mailing list > Hi, > > I got an error (Error 404) when I try to access Fudan Overseas Alumni Mailing > List on http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~mshen/fudan.html. Anybody know what's wrong? > > -Jimmy Han > I think Mo will look after this as soon as he is available, and at the mean time you can always go to http://www.teltec.dcu.ie/~cheny/fudan.html which is a mirror site of the above. It's a bit slower, and might look slightly different. Yining Chen From jhan@fx.com Tue Sep 26 11:35:42 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:35:38 -0500; AA26116 Received: from fxd.fx.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:35:36 -0500 Received: from fxd (localhost) by fx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28515; Tue, 26 Sep 95 09:31:50 PDT Message-Id: <9509261631.AA28515@fx.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 09:31:52 -0700 Sender: jhan@fx.com From: Jimmy Han X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: lists X-Url: http://www.teltec.dcu.ie/~cheny/fudan.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii lists local From MOSHEN@us.oracle.com Tue Sep 26 15:52:02 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:52:00 -0500; AA00432 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:51:57 -0500 Received: from mailsun2.us.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id NAA32571; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:51:56 -0700 Received: by mailsun2.us.oracle.com (4.1/37.8) id AA01591; Tue, 26 Sep 95 13:52:39 PDT Message-Id: <9509262052.AA01591@mailsun2.us.oracle.com> Date: 26 Sep 95 13:50:45 -0700 From: "MOSHEN.US.ORACLE.COM" To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Help: Fudan Alumni Mailing list X-Orcl-Application: In-Reply-To: UNX10.US.ORACLE.COM:cheny@teltec.dcu.ie's message of 26-Sep-95 11:57 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Boundary-739623-0-0 --Boundary-739623-0-0 access fudan overseas mailing list on web page? i'm not sure what you want to see. that link was intended to be a 'mailto:'. it may not work for some clients (Mosaic?). i think i'll change this link to the current list of subscribers. stay tuned. --Mo --Boundary-739623-0-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: 26 Sep 95 11:57:49 From:"Yining Chen" To: Fudan,mailing,list,fudan@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Help: Fudan Alumni Mailing list X-Orcl-Application: Sender: owner-fudan@cs.wisc.edu X-Orcl-Application: Precedence: bulk X-To: fudan X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.1 -- ListProcessor by CREN > Hi, > > I got an error (Error 404) when I try to access Fudan Overseas Alumni Mailing > List on http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~mshen/fudan.html. Anybody know what's wrong? > > -Jimmy Han > I think Mo will look after this as soon as he is available, and at the mean time you can always go to http://www.teltec.dcu.ie/~cheny/fudan.html which is a mirror site of the above. It's a bit slower, and might look slightly different. Yining Chen --Boundary-739623-0-0-- From MOSHEN@us.oracle.com Tue Sep 26 16:32:54 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:32:51 -0500; AA01326 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:32:49 -0500 Received: from mailsun2.us.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id OAA05669; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:32:48 -0700 Received: by mailsun2.us.oracle.com (4.1/37.8) id AA06621; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:33:31 PDT Message-Id: <9509262133.AA06621@mailsun2.us.oracle.com> Date: 26 Sep 95 14:26:58 -0700 From: "MOSHEN.US.ORACLE.COM" To: fudan@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: mailing list on web Mime-Version: 1.0 i have changed the link in the web page. when you click on fudan overseas mailing list, you'll get a list of current subscribers with their conceal mode set to no. if you do not want your name show up on the list, send mail to listserv@cs.wisc.edu with message body "set fudan conceal yes". i'll update this list once per month. if you want the most current list, send mail to listserv@cs.wisc.edu with message body "review fudan". have fun and contribute. --Mo