From mshen@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu Tue Feb 28 10:40:37 1995 Received: from kontiki.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:40:35 -0600; AA26242 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:40:31 -0600 From: mshen@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu (Mo Shen ~{Irce~}) Message-Id: <9502281640.AA05905@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by kontiki.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:40:31 -0600 To: fudan@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu Subject: hello, world hey pal! welcome to fudan mailing list! you may ask, why another list? oh... because chen yinin (so called nail) want to read more junk mails. nah, just kidding! actually, i set it up to exchange information among us fudaners and have some interesting discussions. post anything that you deem is appropriate for the list. but please have a subject line. for example: Subject: Job Posts/Comp. Sci./US/100k Subject: Jokes/Pathetic etc. well, just remember to have some respect for other SMTP clients. last but not the least, have fun! --Mo From cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE Tue Feb 28 10:48:36 1995 Received: from cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:48:33 -0600; AA26434 Received: from odin.pat.dcu.ie by cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:48:28 -0600 Received: from valkyrie.dcu.ie (valkyrie.pat.dcu.ie) by odin.pat.dcu.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27862; Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:47:21 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:47:21 GMT From: cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE (Yining Chen) Message-Id: <9502281647.AA27862@odin.pat.dcu.ie> To: fudan Subject: another test :) Hi, guys I hope this time it won't be rejected. :) Yining From mshen@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu Tue Feb 28 11:03:03 1995 Received: from kontiki.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:03:00 -0600; AA26602 From: mshen@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu (Mo Shen ~{Irce~}) Message-Id: <9502281702.AA05984@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by kontiki.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:02:58 -0600 Subject: Companies/DB/Networking To: fudan@kontiki.cs.wisc.edu Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:02:57 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2732 hey, as an initiative, here is a list of places you might want to probe and distribute your resume to... yinin, want to move to silly valley? --Mo Data Base Software Companies ---------------------------- The ASK Group, Inc. 2880 Scott Blvd., PO Box 58013 Santa Clara, CA 95050-8013 800-446-4737; 408-562-8200 FAX: 408-562-8282 Borland International, Inc. 100 Borland Way Scotts Valley, CA 95066-3249 800-682-9299; 408-431-1000 FAX: 408-439-9262 Gupta Corp. 1060 Marsh Rd. Menlo Park, CA 94025 800-876-3267; 415-321-9500 FAX: 415-321-5471 Informix Software, Inc. 4100 Bohannon Dr. Menlo Park, CA 94025 800-331-1763; 415-926-6300 FAX: 415-926-6593 Oracle Corp. 500 Oracle Pkwy. Redwood Shores, CA 94065 800-ORACLE-1; 415-506-7000 FAX: 415-506-7200 PeopleSoft, Inc. 1331 N. California Blvd., 4th Fl. Walnut Creek, CA 94596 800-947-7753; 510-946-9460 FAX: 510-946-9461 Powersoft Corp. 70 Blanchard Rd. Burlington, MA 01803 800-273-2841; 617-229-2200 FAX: 617-273-2540 Progress Software Corp. 14 Oak Park Bedford, MA 01730-9960 800-831-0098; 617-280-4000 FAX: 617-280-4095 Software Publishing Corp. (SPC) 3165 Kifer Rd., PO Box 54983 Santa Clara, CA 95056-0983 800-336-8360; 408-986-8000 FAX: 408-980-0729 Sybase, Inc. 6475 Christie Ave. Emeryville, CA 94608-9967 800-8-SYBASE; 510-922-3500 FAX: 510-922-9441 Symantec Corp. 10201 Torre Ave. Cupertino, CA 95014-2132 800-441-7234; 408-253-9600 FAX: 408-252-4696 Networking Companies -------------------- 3Com Corp. PO Box 58145, 5400 Bayfront Plaza Santa Clara, CA 95052-8145 800-638-3266; 408-764-5000 ADI Systems, Inc. (subsidiary of ADI Corp.) 2115 Ringwood Ave. San Jose, CA 95131 800-228-0530; 800-675-7322 (CA); 408-944-0100 FAX: 408-944-0300 Cisco Systems, Inc. 1525 O'Brien Dr., PO Box 3075 Menlo Park, CA 94025 800-326-1941; 415-326-1941 FAX: 415-326-1989 Hewlett-Packard Co. 3000 Hanover St. Palo Alto, CA 94304-1181 800-752-0900; 800 387-3867 (CD); 415-857-1501 FAX: 800-333-1917 National Semiconductor Corp. PO Box 58090, 2900 Semiconductor Dr. Santa Clara, CA 95052-8090 800-538-8510; 408-721-5000 FAX: 408-721-7662 NetManage, Inc. 20823 Stevens Creek Blvd., Ste. 100 Cupertino, CA 95014 408-973-7171 FAX: 408-257-6405 Network Peripherals, Inc. 1371 McCarthy Blvd. Milpitas, CA 95035 800-674-8855; 408-321-7300 FAX: 408-321-9218 Novell, Inc. 122 East 1700 South Provo, UT 84606-6194 800-453-1267; 801-429-7000 FAX: 801-429-5155 SunConnect (unit of Sun Microsystems, Inc.) 2550 Garcia Ave. Mountain View, CA 94043 800-241-CONX; 415-960-1300 FAX: 415-856-2114 Ungermann-Bass, Inc. (subsidiary of Tandem Computers, Inc.) PO Box 58030, 3900 Freedom Circle Santa Clara, CA 95052-8030 800-777-4LAN; 408-496-0111 FAX: 408-970-7385 From cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE Tue Feb 28 13:44:54 1995 Received: from cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:44:52 -0600; AA28575 Received: from odin.pat.dcu.ie by cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:44:48 -0600 Received: from odin (odin.pat.dcu.ie) by odin.pat.dcu.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28236; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:52:09 GMT Message-Id: <9502281852.AA28236@odin.pat.dcu.ie> From: Yining Chen Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:52:09 000 Sender: cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE To: fudan Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (X11; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Url: http://www.teltec.dcu.ie/~cheny/fudan.html Ok, up to now, we have a home page, a bulletin board, and a mailing list, what else do we need? :) Any suggestions? I'm trying to see if we can extend the mailing list to China, seems impossible at the moment. Yining From cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE Tue Feb 28 16:21:27 1995 Received: from cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:21:25 -0600; AA00398 Received: from odin.pat.dcu.ie by cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:21:18 -0600 Received: from valkyrie.dcu.ie (valkyrie.pat.dcu.ie) by odin.pat.dcu.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28673; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:20:35 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:20:35 GMT From: cheny@Teltec.DCU.IE (Yining Chen) Message-Id: <9502282220.AA28673@odin.pat.dcu.ie> To: class7@uiuc.edu, fudan Subject: VocalTec's "Internet Phone" (fwd) Hi, I got this message from an IRC friend, thanks to her kindness. I think some of you might be interested in this, using a 486/66, plus 14.4K modem, Sound Card and SLIP, you can actually make a long distance call at a local rate. The registration fee is only $49 at the moment, and will be seeling at $99, which is still a bargin, considering the bill you usually get. :) Try it out. Yining ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From stop@u.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 22:14:20 1995 X-Sender: stop@stein1.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:14:40 -0800 (PST) From: don't ask me who I am To: Yining Chen Subject: VocalTec's "Internet Phone" (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Farhan Memon : Greetings. There were some inquiries on CARR-L about the I-Phone. This is an article I wrote for today's edition of the New York Post. Something I haven't mentioned, but should have is whether there are any regulatory issues raised by this product. Please note this is my personal "writers cut" copy. It differs in several ways from the final copy that appeared in the Post. Hope it helps. Farhan Memon Post Interactive New York Post I-PHONE BEATS BABY BELLS (c) Farhan Memon Ever thought of making a long distance call and being charged only the local rate? You will, and there's not a thing AT&T can do about it. Last week VocalTec, a software company based in Israel, unveiled Internet Phone, a revolutionary new product that allows users of the Internet to speak to each other in realtime over the world wide computer network. Since most people access Internet through dial-up accounts the only charge incurred is that of a local telephone call. In less than a week, users have downloaded 25,000 copies of the Internet Phone software from VocalTec. Until now the most popular way for Internet users to communicate with each other was by e-mail or through text chat gateways. The voice capabilities offered by Internet Phone add a new component to the 'Net surfers' tool box and promises to make the Internet more attractive to a wider variety of users including: --Telecommuters who can check on daily work activities with a simple data call. --Small and medium sized companies with remote offices who want to teleconference. --Home users, or students away at college who want to maintain contact with far-away friends and family. The appearance of Internet Phone has the big long distance carriers running for cover. From 1990 to 1993 they saw the U.S. Postal Service lose $1.8 billion to inexpensive electronic alternatives such as e-mail, and during that same period the volume of business-to-business mail declined by one third. Privately spokespersons for the telcos fear the same will happen in their industry because of the Internet Phone. They have good cause to be concerned. Depending on the speed of your modem sound quality of Internet Phone is comparable to that of a regular long distance call, conversations aren't stilted and can be carried on at a normal pace, and because the Internet is designed to route messages around trouble spots there's never a chance of the circuits being busy. "Sprint's fond of saying that you can hear the sound of a pin drop using their service," said John Hampton, a software developer from Carson City, Nevada who was interviewed using Internet Phone. "I say using the I-Phone you can hear the pin actually falling. This is so good." The Internet Phone relies on technology VocalTec developed for its corporate users who wanted to conduct inter-office communications over their own computer networks. To accomplish this the company invented a technique that compresses sound In addition, a secret mathematical formula allows the software to overcome one of Internet's inherent weaknesses -- sometimes data packets do not arrive at their destination in the same order they were sent making the message unintelligible. At a minimum the Internet Phone requires a 486/33Mhz IBM- compatible PC running Windows 3.1, a sound card, a SLIP or PPP connection to the Internet, and a 14.4K modem. Users download the Internet Phone program from VocalTec's homepage on the Internet (http://www.vocaltec.com) and then have 30 days to try it out for free. During the trial period there is a 60 second on-air time limit before the program has to be re-loaded. Until April users can register Internet Phone by e-mail for $49, after which it will be available in stores for $99. With its voice activation mechanism and a quick tour tutorial for beginners, the Internet Phone is extremely user friendly. A live Internet Phone directory provides a list of all Internet Phone clients that are on-line at any given moment. A click on a user name in the directory results in a ringing tone on the receiving end which when answered allows the call to begin. An on-screen indicator informs the receiver who's calling in a manner similar to the "Caller ID" feature available with standard telephone service. If the person being called is on-line with another call, the caller will get a busy signal. "It's better than speaking on a regular telephone," said Peter Lucas of Duneden, New Zealand. "Over the past week I've spent nearly 20 hours on my computer chatting with people in France, Australia, Great Britain and the Bahamas. For me the phone company doesn't exist anymore. I'm going to make my overseas friends get this otherwise I'm not calling them." While consumers prepare to by-pass them the long distance phone companies are putting on a brave face and deny that there is anything to fear. "Were looking at this, but we aren't overly concerned," said Gini Gold, a spokeswoman for AT&T. "Not everybody has Internet first of all so its a matter of convenience. With the phone you can pick it up and call. Then you have to consider the level of quality and service we provide. When your call doesn't go though you can always call us, but who are you going to call when you have problems with Internet Phone who are you going to call and what type of support are they going to give you." Gold said companies considering using Internet Phone for business should be aware that the Internet network has many security problems. Despite AT&T's ambivalent attitude towards Internet Phone, telecommunications analyst Reid Halloway believes the new technology will affect the long distance carriers do business. "The ultimate impact of this is that long-distance rates will continue to come down. That's just the way competition works. These guys at VocalTec have transformed a data crunching machine into a true telecommunications device, they've found a new way to skin the cat. It's the age old story of commodities over time --prices come down." Marsha Woodbury marsha-w@uiuc.edu U of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign FAX 217-356-7050 Home 217-337-0001 Work 217-244-3390 http://w3.ag.uiuc.edu/AIM/marsha.html ----- End Included Message -----