From prasad@acm6.me.uiuc.edu Sun Jun 23 21:37:40 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA14150 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:37:35 -0500 Received: from acm6.me.uiuc.edu (acm6.me.uiuc.edu [128.174.125.26]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA04856 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:37:33 -0500 Received: by acm6.me.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA54731; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:37:33 -0500 From: prasad@acm6.me.uiuc.edu (Prasad Chodavarapu) Message-Id: <9606240237.AA54731@acm6.me.uiuc.edu> Subject: hi to G's list To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu (Ghantasala mailing list) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:37:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2027 dear G fans, i was going through the archives thru the web as i had some time to kill. for months, i did not subscribe to G's list as i wasn't sure of sustaining my interest in the list. but today, i found one simple reason why i should subscribe -- the posts would remind me of those wonderful songs, which i can then hum away, magically, w/o much effort to recall from the farthest corners of my memory. anyway, now that i have finally taken the plunge, here r some ramblings. when i went home this dec, it was such a treat to watch eenADu sarAgAlu...surAgAlu on Etv...mI tv :) all thru the day, with oldies and new songs, played alternatively. i wonder what would happen to G list archives if srinivas watches these songs for just a day! he would have so much to say. Etv is one good thing that happened after AIR. DD never contributed that much to local culture. anyway, what has this got to do with G's list? i was reading mohan parigi gAri G juke box post and i recalled what one of my friends was saying the other day. how about re-releasing the old classics such as maya bazar and malliswari, after furnishing them with colour, 4-track stereo and such other modern day trappings. i know that satyajit ray's films were sought to be preserved but did any such projects exist for telugu films? ragards prasad -- ********************************************************************* Prasad Chodavarapu * WWW Homepage: * 305 N.Lincoln Av., #S105 * * Urbana IL 61801 * http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~chodavar* ********************************************************************* ph:(217)-344-0473(R) * "manasanE oka sampada prati * (217)-244-6909(O) * manishilOnU unDanI, mamatalE * ********************************** prati manasulO koluvunDanI" * e-mail:chodavar@students.uiuc.edu* --rAjasrI * ********************************************************************* From ghantasa@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Tue Jun 25 08:44:04 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA09382 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:43:58 -0500 Received: from tiberium.circ.gwu.edu (tiberium.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.251]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA24329 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:43:57 -0500 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (ghantasa@gwis2 [128.164.127.252]) by tiberium.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA01575 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:40:39 -0400 Received: (from ghantasa@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA02225; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:43:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:43:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Sridhar Basavaraju Subject: Old movies redone To: Multiple recipients of list In-Reply-To: <9606240237.AA54731@acm6.me.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A question was recently brought up on whether or not old movies like maya bazaar were ever considered to be redone in color, etc. . . I was always of the opinion that the fact that the movies seemed so old was what brought some charm to them. I also think that part of what brought some charm to Ghantasala's voice on screen was that he would be singing for a young ANR or NTR in an olden "golden" picture. I have seen some old movies after they were colorized and the sound was dubbed to be a little different and after watching the original black and white picture and then the color one, I felt, personally, that the color one could not compare in sentimental appeal and authentic nostalgia to the old black and white pictures. Just a little thought for the day. . . . . Sridhar ============================================================================== Cry without weeping talk without speaking scream without raising your voice (U2) From MIDOT.MICHTRANS3.parigim@state.mi.us Tue Jun 25 15:33:47 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA16967 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:33:40 -0500 Received: from dns.state.mi.us (dns.state.mi.us [167.240.253.3]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA00547 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:33:37 -0500 Received: from state.mi.us (som-ngw.state.mi.us [167.240.253.5]) by dns.state.mi.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA16701 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:31:27 -0400 Received: from MI-Message_Server by state.mi.us with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:38:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:32:23 -0400 From: Mohan Parigi To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Subject: hi to G's list -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline cODavarapu prasAd wrote: >when i went home this dec, it was such a treat to >watch eenADu sarAgAlu...surAgAlu on Etv...mI tv >:) all thru the day, with oldies and new >songs, played alternatively. It was a real treat. I enjoyed it also. Not just me. Everybody in house enjoys it. Not just folks in my house. Many others that I spoke to. Some even from other states like Karnataka and Tamilnadu. They say that now they are able keep in touch with telugu things. >Etv is one good thing that happened after AIR. DD >never contributed that much to local culture. >anyway, what has this got to do with G's list? I found that they use telugu, and not the anglicized version. DD is completely forgotten. In fact the songs and 9 O'clock movie have virtually put the video shops out of business. (and may be the need for VCRs !?) >i was reading mohan parigi gAri G juke box post >and i recalled what one of my friends was saying >the other day. how about re-releasing the old >classics such as maya bazar and malliswari, >after furnishing them with colour, 4-track stereo >and such other modern day trappings. Yesterday on the national public radio here in the US, there was a program on New CDs from Old LP records of some french singer. There is a new CD called "Secret Museum" by Pat Hondi (spelling not sure). It contains many vintage songs from all parts of the world (Yes, including India). Goes to show that such interest is worldwide. >i know that satyajit ray's films were sought to >be preserved but did any such projects exist for >telugu films? Our film industry has a remarkable lack of sense of preservation and building an institution for archives. I have not come across reading anything that is aimed at preserving our films. I doubt how much of telugu is covered in national film archives. regarding satyajit ray's movies, I remember reading that an association in USA is planning for ray film festival. ragards madan From kandadai@mwci.net Tue Jun 25 20:47:41 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA21427 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:47:36 -0500 Received: from subcellar.mwci.net (subcellar.mwci.net [205.254.160.2]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA04418 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:47:24 -0500 Received: from kandadai.mwci.net (dav-dial-246.dav.mwci.net [205.254.163.246]) by subcellar.mwci.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA07959 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:44:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:44:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199606260144.UAA07959@subcellar.mwci.net> X-Sender: kandadai@mwci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu From: kandadai@mwci.net (Krishna Kandadai) Subject: Re: hi to G's list -Reply >Our film industry has a remarkable lack of sense >of preservation and building an institution for >archives. I have not come across reading anything >that is aimed at preserving our films. I doubt how >much of telugu is covered in national film >archives. Talking of archiving old movies, the other day, in a private mail, I was discussing with Srinivas about a snippet I read recently from an old Andhra Bhumi. The snippet says that "the movie tyAgayya (of nAgayya) has been preserved as an international film document by Cinematic Francois Institute (sp?), Paris". Krishna __________________________________ / / __\/__ _____ ___________ ____/ / / / / / / / / / /_____ / / / / __/ / __ / / / / / / / __ / / / /_____/ /____/ /__^__/ /_/ / / /__^/_/ /_/________ From MIDOT.MICHTRANS3.parigim@STATE.MI.US Wed Jun 26 09:12:50 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA03694 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:12:30 -0500 Received: from dns.state.mi.us (dns.state.mi.us [167.240.253.3]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA09806 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:12:26 -0500 Received: from state.mi.us (som-ngw.state.mi.us [167.240.253.5]) by dns.state.mi.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA05672 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:19:55 -0400 Received: from MI-Message_Server by state.mi.us with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:25:39 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:19:35 -0400 From: Mohan Parigi To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: hi to G's list -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Krishna Kandadai wrote: >The snippet says that "the movie tyAgayya (of >nAgayya) has been preserved as an international >film document by Cinematic Francois Institute >(sp?), Paris". This is interesting ! We need to find out if there are any other telugu movies preserved in that institute and other institutes as well. Let me try if they have any web page ! madan mohan From eta957095@rccvax.ait.ac.th Wed Jun 26 10:14:25 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA04869 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from rccvax.AIT.AC.TH (rccvax.ait.ac.th [203.159.0.6]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10631 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:14:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:09:12 -0700 Message-Id: <96062622091262@rccvax.ait.ac.th> From: eta957095@rccvax.ait.ac.th (VIJAY V KAKANI) To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: hi to G's list -Reply -Reply X-VMS-To: SMTP%"ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ETA957095 Hello, I remember some time back there was discussion on "Karulo shikaru kelle" in Todikodallu. I just heard the song on AIR. Lyrics is attributed to Kosaraju. Another in the same line. Any body remember the song Idi kullina sangham vayasu mallina sangham something like this and in the same Valla malina soujanyam to challarina vadokadu udrekamto unikini marichina ugravadi inkokadu. This song describes four students and I think penned by Sri Sri in I think Rangeli raja. Vijay From sreeni@ktpsp1.uni-paderborn.de Wed Jun 26 10:28:10 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA05179 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:28:04 -0500 Received: from ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de (ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de [131.234.180.2]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA10831 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:27:57 -0500 Received: (from sreeni@localhost) by ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA27454 for ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:27:31 +0200 From: Sreenivas Paruchuri Message-Id: <199606261527.RAA27454@ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de> Subject: Re: hi to G's list To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:27:30 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: from "Mohan Parigi" at Jun 25, 96 05:32:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3545 >> Mohan Parigi wrote : > cODavarapu prasAd wrote: Have never seen this ETV back home, but heard very positive comments. Apparently they have acquired the rights for several old films in recent months. Some of the, hitherto difficult to get, old gems shown were: rOjulu maaraayi (plenty of good songs by G), sangham (no G songs, but a BIG musical hit. Also in Tamil and Hindi.) and kaaLahasteeSwara maahaatmyam (again lots of good songs by G). There might be more. Wish some one recorded them. > >the other day. how about re-releasing the old > >classics such as maya bazar and malliswari, Has n't Capt. Madhu posted a message on SCIT a year or so ago, saying that maayaabazaar is released in 4-track stereo, colour, ....... > called "Secret Museum" by Pat Hondi (spelling not > sure). It contains many vintage songs from all > parts of the world (Yes, including India). Goes to > show that such interest is worldwide. These are mostly instrumental or folk or classical songs. ~ four years ago "Rounder" brought out a CD with Indian classical music of early decades of this century. It was an eye-opener for HMV. They rushed and brought out some 10-12 four cassette volumes of classical music of early decades (1905-1930). All Hindustani recordings! We don't have any pre-1940 Telugu song available in the market today, nor they were released on LP/EP/CD/Cassette ever. Well, leave such old songs. It 'd be fine if good, popular old songs are released. And as Ghantasala fans we are esp. interested in G's songs between 1948 and 1954, which are not easy to get. > >i know that satyajit ray's films were sought to > >be preserved but did any such projects exist for telugu films? > Our film industry has a remarkable lack of sense > of preservation and building an institution for > archives. I have not come across reading anything > that is aimed at preserving our films. I doubt how > much of telugu is covered in national film archives. The National Film Archives India (NFAI) was established quite lately, in 1963. ONLY one silent film from south survived (under interesting circumstances. So are Phalke's films! Each film in archives has a story to tell.) or found so far. Its _raajaa maartaanDa varma_ (made in Kerala, 1930). None of Raghupati Prakash's films survived (perhaps one, which reached USA. More on these ooooold films some other time ..). Not even the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th.... Telugu Talki survived. Atleast Gudavalli's "maalapilla" and "raitubiDDa" are preserved in NFAI. Most of the publications/books dealing with Indian cinema write at the most a few words (or one page) on non-Hindi films. Hmm. Krishna refered to a print at Cinematheque in France. Its a pioneer institution worldwide, and has one of the largest archives world wide. There was a four programme in Franco-German channel "ARTE" 5 months ago on film archivers, curators. It was full of information. Even Kodak in Rochester has excellant archives, having two legendary Bengali fils of 1934 in their collection. tyaagayya (1946) film is fortunately available in good quality still. I am more interested in finding out documentaries naagayya made besidee the film. He shot a few thousand feet long film on Dwaram Venkataswami Naidu and also on other leading musicians of that time. Its a big story. To summarise, naagayya wrote that he made a film on dwaaram and the film was acquired by some one in California. Wheres it? Try this web page, reg. the inst. Krishna was refering to: http://web.cnam.fr/museum/index.html Regards, Sreenivas From ghantasa@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Wed Jun 26 12:49:28 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07348 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:49:22 -0500 Received: from tiberium.circ.gwu.edu (tiberium.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.251]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA12845 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:49:19 -0500 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (ghantasa@gwis2 [128.164.127.252]) by tiberium.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA06899 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:46:03 -0400 Received: (from ghantasa@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA28220; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:49:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Sridhar Basavaraju Subject: Film preservation in France, etc To: Multiple recipients of list In-Reply-To: <199606261527.RAA27454@ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In light of the recent conversation on the preservation of the movie tyagayya, I thought that I would pass on a little rumor that I heard a few years back and maybe someone from the group can confirm it. I heard that the year the movie Narthansala was released, 1965 or so, it was sent to the International Film Festival being held in Cannes, France as I believe the festival is every year. Apparently, not only was the picture nominated among the best in the world, but SV Ranga Rao won best supporting actor for his portrayal of Keechaka. I can only imagine that this recognition must have brought the singers, mainly Ghantasala, much attention, especially given the quality and diversity of the songs in the movie. He sings a very classical piece, and then several of the most beautiful padyams along with many still popular lite songs. I never mentioned this before because i couldn't confirm it, but if someone would like to find out through the net somehow, maybe that would be a good idea. Sridhar ============================================================================== Cry without weeping talk without speaking scream without raising your voice (U2) From MIDOT.MICHTRANS3.parigim@state.mi.us Wed Jun 26 15:18:08 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA11192 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:17:59 -0500 Received: from dns.state.mi.us (dns.state.mi.us [167.240.253.3]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA15291 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:17:57 -0500 Received: from state.mi.us (som-ngw.state.mi.us [167.240.253.5]) by dns.state.mi.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA14111 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:15:08 -0400 Received: from MI-Message_Server by state.mi.us with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:22:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:16:07 -0400 From: Mohan Parigi To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Film preservation in France, etc -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >Narthansala was released, 1965 or so, it was sent >to the International Film Festival being held in >Cannes, France as I believe the festival is every >year. Apparently, not only was the picture >nominated among the best in the world, but SV >Ranga Rao won best supporting actor for his >portrayal of Keechaka. I think it was the Manila Film Festival. madan mohan From cjampala@desire.wright.edu Wed Jun 26 15:58:55 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA12006 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:58:49 -0500 Received: from desire.wright.edu (desire.wright.edu [130.108.128.200]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA16023 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:58:47 -0500 Received: from desire.wright.edu by desire.wright.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #2485) id <01I6DEBAJQG89203QM@desire.wright.edu>; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:59:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:59:16 -0500 (EST) From: "V. Chowdary Jampala" Subject: Re: Film preservation in France, etc -Reply In-reply-to: To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Mohan Parigi wrote: > >Narthansala was released, 1965 or so, it was sent > >to the International Film Festival being held in > >Cannes, France as I believe the festival is every > >year. Apparently, not only was the picture > >nominated among the best in the world, but SV > >Ranga Rao won best supporting actor for his > >portrayal of Keechaka. > > I think it was the Manila Film Festival. > I recall it as the Jakarta (Indonesia) film festival. Regards. --- Chowdary Jampala From RAYUDUR@kea.lincoln.ac.nz Wed Jun 26 16:11:18 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA12071 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:11:13 -0500 Received: from ono.lincoln.ac.nz (ono.lincoln.ac.nz [138.75.10.8]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA16209 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:11:09 -0500 Received: from kea.lincoln.ac.nz by ono.lincoln.ac.nz (PMDF V4.3-13 #7492) id <01I6ECA39MDS8ZF1GY@ono.lincoln.ac.nz>; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:11:51 +1200 Received: from KEA/SpoolDir by kea.lincoln.ac.nz (Mercury 1.21) ; 27 Jun 96 09:11:39 +1200 Received: from SpoolDir by KEA (Mercury 1.21); 27 Jun 96 09:11:13 +1200 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:11:09 +1200 From: RAMESH KUMAR RAYUDU Subject: Re: Film preservation in France, etc -Reply To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Message-id: <1EFA0C443B4@kea.lincoln.ac.nz> Organization: Lincoln University X-Envelope-to: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal > >Narthansala was released, 1965 or so, it was sent > >to the International Film Festival being held in > >Cannes, France as I believe the festival is every > >year. Apparently, not only was the picture > >nominated among the best in the world, but SV > >Ranga Rao won best supporting actor for his > >portrayal of Keechaka. > > I think it was the Manila Film Festival. I was told former Russia also awarded SVR with an award for his portryal of Kichaka.... Ramesh > > madan mohan > From cjampala@desire.wright.edu Wed Jun 26 21:33:10 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA15847 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:33:04 -0500 Received: from desire.wright.edu (desire.wright.edu [130.108.128.200]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA19623 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:32:56 -0500 Received: from desire.wright.edu by desire.wright.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #2485) id <01I6DPYIUNQU9206R6@desire.wright.edu>; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:33:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:33:21 -0500 (EST) From: "V. Chowdary Jampala" Subject: Re: Film preservation in France, etc -Reply In-reply-to: To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, V. Chowdary Jampala wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Mohan Parigi wrote: > > > >Narthansala was released, 1965 or so, it was sent > > >to the International Film Festival being held in > > >Cannes, France as I believe the festival is every > > >year. Apparently, not only was the picture > > >nominated among the best in the world, but SV > > >Ranga Rao won best supporting actor for his > > >portrayal of Keechaka. > > > > I think it was the Manila Film Festival. > > > > I recall it as the Jakarta (Indonesia) film festival. > Yes, it was a film festival in Djakarta (Indonesia), according to maa telugu talliki mallepoodanDa. Also, I am not sure about that nomination as one of the best pictures in the world part. The release of narthanaSaala was in 1963, I think. Regards. --- V. Chowdary Jampala From nparinand@cas.org Thu Jun 27 14:16:43 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA27947 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:16:34 -0500 Received: from srv01s4.cas.org (srv01s4.cas.org [134.243.50.9]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA28399 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:16:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:16:00 -0400 From: nparinand@cas.org (PALANA (pAranandi lakshmI narasimham)) Message-Id: <9606271515.AA12692@cas.org> Subject: Old Songs of Ghantasala - Still young and vibrant - Fast Beat Songs!!! To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Well what do you say about modern fast and ultra beat songs? Just listen to those songs sung by G , e.g. Santinivasam! 1) rAve rAdhA 2) come come --------------- Also the one in Bharya Bhartalu (if I am correct) 3) jOrugA hushArugA A good example of hormonica accompaniment. ---------------- A teenager of the present day is asked to listen to these songs and he asks a question whether the movie is about to be released. --pAlana From sreeni@ktpsp1.uni-paderborn.de Fri Jun 28 13:04:12 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA11310 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:04:07 -0500 Received: from ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de (ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de [131.234.180.2]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA10533 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:04:04 -0500 Received: (from sreeni@localhost) by ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de (8.6.12/8.6.10) id UAA08875 for ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:03:52 +0200 From: Sreenivas Paruchuri Message-Id: <199606281803.UAA08875@ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de> Subject: Re: Film preservation in France, etc To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:03:51 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: from "V. Chowdary Jampala" at Jun 26, 96 10:33:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2508 First of all here is the URL of the reknowned Cinematheque in Paris: http://www.worldnet.net/%7Emannoni/theque.html Sridhar wrote: [Already Sri Jampala followed up on the award winning performance by S V Ranga Rao.] > portrayal of Keechaka. I can only imagine that this recognition must > have brought the singers, mainly Ghantasala, much attention, especially > given the quality and diversity of the songs in the movie. He sings a very > classical piece, and then several of the most beautiful padyams along with > many still popular lite songs. I never mentioned this before because i No doubt that nartanaSaala has excellant songs, but there were never real efforts to disseminate information about the existance of a language called "Telugu" (esp. in the west). If you compare it with the Hindi field, the Hindi songs are familiar in many countries; in entire middle-east, Turkey etc. In ex-USSR, China, Greece, .... people are aware of Hindi and Hindi film songs (through Raj Kapoor and ......). With the lone exception of Mauritius you hear no where about Telugu films (BTW my friend from Mauritius says: ugaadi is a Public Holiday there !!!). BN reDDi wanted to make/dub his favourite film "malleeSwari", but unfortunately it never took off. When his "bangaaru paapa" (1955. Note that this (musical) gem has no songs from G. The only vaahini film with no G songs!) was shown in London, Chaplin had very high praise for S V Ranga Rao and said that Elliot 'd have been the happiest man (the film is based on Elliot's _Silas Marner_). Its undisputed that no one can/could match the Telugu-s in making mythologicals. Thanks to great actors, story/lyric writers!! No other Indian (or for that matter foreign) language had such a high quality lyricists. Every one was a first class poet/writer. Its unique. Unfortunately we could never spread these facts and message. In such circumstance, where is the chance that G 'd be known to others. Why go out of the country, when he is not known in the own land itself. > Yes, it was a film festival in Djakarta (Indonesia), according to > maa telugu talliki mallepoodanDa. Also, I am not sure about that > nomination as one of the best pictures in the world part. The release of > narthanaSaala was in 1963, I think. The year of release is correct! Its not nominated as one of the best pictures. A few years after namminabanTu (1960) won an award in Barcelona. Regards, Sreenivas P. S. I listed all the award winning films once on net. From sreeni@ktpsp1.uni-paderborn.de Sat Jun 29 06:16:42 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA17979 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:16:36 -0500 Received: from ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de (ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de [131.234.180.2]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA17631 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:16:31 -0500 Received: (from sreeni@localhost) by ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de (8.6.12/8.6.10) id NAA12153 for ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 13:16:26 +0200 From: Sreenivas Paruchuri Message-Id: <199606291116.NAA12153@ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de> Subject: vidyaarthulu navasamaaja nirmaataluraa (Re: hi to G's list) To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 13:16:25 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <96062622091262@rccvax.ait.ac.th> from "VIJAY V KAKANI" at Jun 26, 96 10:09:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1820 >> VIJAY V KAKANI wrote : > I remember some time back there was discussion on "Karulo shikaru kelle" in > Todikodallu. I just heard the song on AIR. Lyrics is attributed to Kosaraju. Is n't it a mistake on the part of AIR announcer ? > Any body remember the song Idi kullina sangham vayasu > describes four students and I think penned by Sri Sri in I think > Rangeli raja. Oh, its long years since I heard this. Here is an attempt to wRITe the lyrics: [Corrections are welcome.] ------------------- vidyaarthulu navasamaaja nirmaataluraa vidyaarthulu dESa bhaavi nirNeetaluraa vinOdaalu rEginaa (?) viplavaalu rEginaa anniTiki pai chEyi yuvataraanidE pragati aagipOvu vidyaarthulu mundulEnidE #books! books! Bloody books!# #Looks (?) ..........??? #Corridor#lO kaasEpu, #Canteen#lO kaasEpu .............................#Student Life#! "vidyaarthulu" chaduvE naa aahaaram, chaduvE naa paaneeyam vidyaadaata naa daivam, vidyaalayam naa dEvaalayam sanghamutO panilEdu, -----------------? meeTingulanTE ammO bhayam! paaThaalanTE mahaa priyam "vidyaarthulu" I am missing the entire 3rd stanza. idi kuLLina sangham vayasu maLLina sangham deeni keeLLu virichi vEyaali ! vrELLu nariki vEyaali pennu viDachi peTTi, gannu chEtabaTTi pettandaarula .....alu (?) koTTaali aa netturulO kotta jagati puTTaali chaduvulanTE pedavi virachE saradaa jeevi okaDu pustakamE samastamanE chaadastapu yuvakuDu okaDu vallamaalina saujanyamtO challaarina vaaDokaDu udrEkamtO unikini marachina ugravaadi inkokaDu nalugurilO kalavu konni lOpaalu nalugurilO kalavu enno suguNaalu aa suguNaalannee EkamainanaaDE aadarSa vidyaarthi avatarinchutaaDu ataDE mana dESaaniki aaSaadeepam (?) viSwaSaantikosagunOyi abhinava tEjam (?) ---------------- Aah! What a song!!! Thanks for reminding! Regards, Sreenivas From prasad@acm6.me.uiuc.edu Sat Jun 29 14:32:44 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA22586 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:32:39 -0500 Received: from acm6.me.uiuc.edu (acm6.me.uiuc.edu [128.174.125.26]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA19710 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:32:38 -0500 Received: by acm6.me.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA57873; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:32:38 -0500 From: prasad@acm6.me.uiuc.edu (Prasad Chodavarapu) Message-Id: <9606291932.AA57873@acm6.me.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: vidyaarthulu navasamaaja nirmaataluraa (Re: hi to G's list) To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:32:37 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199606291116.NAA12153@ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de> from "Sreenivas Paruchuri" at Jun 29, 96 01:16:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1168 [Sreenivas Paruchuri wrote...] : vidyaarthulu navasamaaja nirmaataluraa : vidyaarthulu dESa bhaavi nirNeetaluraa : vinOdaalu rEginaa (?) viplavaalu rEginaa : anniTiki pai chEyi yuvataraanidE : pragati aagipOvu vidyaarthulu mundulEnidE : : #books! books! Bloody books!# : #Looks (?) ..........??? what, srInivas didn't know about looks :-) it is #looks,looks,pretty looks# chodavarapu ( all queries on pretty looks will be answered ) prasad -- ********************************************************************* Prasad Chodavarapu * WWW Homepage: * 305 N.Lincoln Av., #S105 * * Urbana IL 61801 * http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~chodavar* ********************************************************************* ph:(217)-344-0473(R) * "manasanE oka sampada prati * (217)-244-6909(O) * manishilOnU unDanI, mamatalE * ********************************** prati manasulO koluvunDanI" * e-mail:chodavar@students.uiuc.edu* --rAjasrI * ********************************************************************* From cjampala@desire.wright.edu Sat Jun 29 17:16:11 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA23623 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:16:07 -0500 Received: from desire.wright.edu (desire.wright.edu [130.108.128.200]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA20464 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:16:05 -0500 Received: from desire.wright.edu by desire.wright.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #2485) id <01I6HNV2VCC0920KZ5@desire.wright.edu>; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 18:16:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 18:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: "V. Chowdary Jampala" Subject: Re: vidyaarthulu navasamaaja nirmaataluraa (Re: hi to G's list) In-reply-to: <199606291116.NAA12153@ktpsp6.uni-paderborn.de> To: ghantasa@cs.wisc.edu Cc: CJAMPALA@desire.wright.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Sreenivas Paruchuri wrote: > >> VIJAY V KAKANI wrote : > > > I remember some time back there was discussion on "Karulo shikaru kelle" in > > Todikodallu. I just heard the song on AIR. Lyrics is attributed to Kosaraju. > Is n't it a mistake on the part of AIR announcer ? > Yes, the AIR announcer did make a mistake. kaarulO... is included in the aatrEyaa movie songs volume-1. SreeSree refers to aatrEya's authorship of this song in his book paaDavOyi bhaarateeyuDaa. Regards. --- V. Chowdary Jampala