From jnrosen@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Sun Sep 24 00:33:59 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 00:33:56 -0500; AA23677 Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 00:33:54 -0500 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id BAA06486 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 01:33:53 -0400 Received: (from jnrosen@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA08454; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 01:33:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 01:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy N Rosen Subject: SMU To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Call me grumpy after doing law homework until 2AM, but couldn't we have had one post about the SMU blowout? Can someone post something during the day on Sunday? Thanks. ---Jeremy Rosen From glaser@univbkstr.com Sun Sep 24 12:16:58 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 12:16:56 -0500; AA29580 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 12:16:54 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA25875 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:55:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:55:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199509241755.MAA25875@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: B-ball coach X-Mailer: > The word at >that time seemed to be that the mutual fund guy from Milwaukee who's name >escapes me right now, the one who supposedly put up the $$ to buy out SVG and >was rumored to be putting up the $$ for the new arena before Herb Kohl >stepped up to the plate (but didn't I read that the guy eventually did pony >up $10 million towards the Kohl Arena?), insisted on Bennett for the job. >Don't know how true that is but it certainly makes a great story. > His name is Nicholas...He played outstanding b-ball for UW in the late 40s... Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From manuvir@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu Sun Sep 24 13:30:47 1995 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 13:30:45 -0500; AA29850 Message-Id: <9509241830.AA20232@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu> Received: from localhost by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 13:30:43 -0500 To: jnrosen@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: SMU In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 24 Sep 1995 01:33:50 EDT." Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:30:42 -0500 From: Manuvir Das >Call me grumpy after doing law homework until 2AM, but couldn't we have >had one post about the SMU blowout? Can someone post something during the >day on Sunday? Thanks. Okay, sorry! :) The game was reminiscent of the EMU game last year. SMU began the game with a solid drive that went down to the Badger 33 until they went for it on 4th and 5 and came up short. They were going with 4 and 5 receiver sets and running the draw out of those sets with great success. Intially it seemed to me that the Badgers had the base defense in again this run and shoot with Unverzagt and Monty having to cover speedy receivers (esp #83, can't remember his name) but they did change that up later. Anyway until the 4th down play SMU looked good and the crowd was very quiet. IMO Rossley (the SMU coach) made a bad call going for it because it woke up the crowd, and appeared to wake up the Badgers as well. After that it was all Wisconsin. The Badgers drove the ball down the field as they have done in recent years, with #13 ripping off 5-7 yards at will and Bevell looking very good. Before long it was 14-0 and the Badgers were in control. After this, Bevell began using the play action to great effect. His first >10 yard pass was a completion over the middle to Simmons. Although he completed the pass with a great throw, it was a little disconcerting that he threw it into triple coverage. That said, the play fired up the offense, brought Tony back into the game, etc. In the 2nd quarter, Bevell threw the best pass I've seen him make in a long time. He threw a 30yd post to Simmons for a TD: Tony had man coverage with safety help coming late from the inside, Bevell read it and threw a rope right into Simmons hands, with #82 not having to slow even a fraction. One drive later, from a similar spot on the field, Bevell led London into a 5 yard slant (I knew from that throw that Bevell is back because he led London into it perfectly, as opposed to previous occassions when he has thrown behind the receiver on slants.) London made a great cut and was gone from there. Meanwhile, the defense was playing well and putting pressure on the QB. James left the game after being levelled by Monty and #85 on a QB draw. I didn't notice much drop off to the next QB but one of them threw up a couple of prayers that were much closer to our guys than theirs. Suttle picked up one and just missed another, while Weems picked up one at our 3 yard line. Okay, let me now comment on individual players who I think stepped up very well (* for emphasis on certain players): *#29 Adamov - He was excellent and almost gave the feeling that the old #29 was back on the field. #7 Weems - Filled in for Soup and played very well. He was always around the ball, picked off a long pass at the 3 yard line with a great catch, and broke very nicely on a quick out that he could have taken back 85 yards. #42, #47 and #48 - These guys are always solid but Monty and Unverzagt did a great job of staying with faster receivers they were asked to cover, and Saleh was making tackles 20 yards away from where he was lined up at DE. #82 Simmons - Came back with some nice moves to get open, and credit Bevell for trying extra hard to look for him. #4 London - great cut on the slant pattern for a TD. *#24 Torian - Where's the guy who used to drop the ball all the time? He's catching everything now and as a result we seem to have a good 3man rotation at WR set up. But the reason I liked his play especially is his blocking. He made a great block to get London into the endzone, and here's something you would not expect. On the first single receiver set of the day from which the Badgers seem to run the stretch play a lot, Torian was in, which surprised me. But after watching a couple of these plays I realised that he was in because he's the best blocker of the lot at WR, and really does a great job taking out his man. #13 McCollough - the problem with consistent excellence is that you run out of things to say. 6-7 yards a pop, everytime. But someone should tell CHildress that you run the stretch plays with the speed guy. *#43 Stecker - he got his chances today and he came through very well. Had over a hundred on just a few carries and played the Fletcher role to perfection. *#14 John Hall - he didn't get to try any field goal, but he was his usual self on kickoffs, and what I liked the most was his mental play. He made 4 out of 4 PATs, after which the coaches sent in a freshman to kick the fifth one, to give Hall some kind of a message. But when he came out for the kickoff he was pumped up as usual (as pointed out by Van Stout on the PBS telecast), he did not have his head down, and he came back and made the next PAT. Finally my player of the game was definitely #11. Apart from the stats (18-20, 3TDs, 223? yds, school record 14-14 in 1st half, school record 233.6 passing rating for the game), he was on his game as shown by the good throws, and he showed how much of a leader he is by sticking with Simmons and getting him back to believing in himself by throwing him the ball when he was open. For the team as a whole, it was an excellent victory, a shutout, 42 solid points on offense, but the key (to me, anyway) more than the fine play was the word TEAM. These guys were all over each other celebrating together when any player made a play, from #13 jumping onto Simmons after his TD (a la Brett Favre) to Stark piling onto Stecker (that's a scary sight!) That's all I have to say. I'm off to PennState next week and my sneak preview is as follows: I watched the Lions play last night against Rutgers, I saw them play against TexasTech at home, and hey, they can be beat. We can score on them, and they can score against us. Look for a shootout, and history says that in a shootout, home field and rankings go out the window. - Manuvir From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Sun Sep 24 15:52:27 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 15:52:25 -0500; AA01171 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 15:52:23 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA00309; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:52:22 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:52:22 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9509242052.AA00309@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu, manuvir@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: SMU > The game was reminiscent of the EMU game last year. I disagree. I felt Wisconsin was quite sloppy against EMU last year, and I got picked apart on this list for pointing that out - when I was "supposed" to be woofing about a 56-0 victory. Of course, our next game was against Colorado, and my worst fears came true. Anyway, I thought Wisconsin looked pretty sharp yesterday, EXCEPT for a bit of a penalty problem. > #13 McCollough - the problem with consistent excellence is that > you run out of things to say. 6-7 yards a pop, everytime. But > someone should tell CHildress that you run the stretch plays > with the speed guy. It seems to me that McCollough has openings to go well beyond that 6-7, but he trips and falls down. It seems that he isn't very good at breaking tackles, at least without getting his balance messed up. Moss would have had 200 yards with the same plays, I think. > *#43 Stecker - he got his chances today and he came through very > well. Had over a hundred on just a few carries and played the > Fletcher role to perfection. Sort of like a fumbleless Burns, eh? Brian From glaser@univbkstr.com Sun Sep 24 16:14:57 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 16:14:54 -0500; AA01357 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 16:14:51 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA27242 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 16:53:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 16:53:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199509242153.QAA27242@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: SMU X-Mailer: >That's all I have to say. I'm off to PennState next week and my >sneak preview is as follows: I watched the Lions play last night >against Rutgers, I saw them play against TexasTech at home, and >hey, they can be beat. We can score on them, and they can score >against us. Look for a shootout, and history says that in a >shootout, home field and rankings go out the window. I saw that game too. With a little more than one minute to play, it was first down and Penn State was up by at least two touchdowns. With Penn State's 2nd and 3rd stringers in they went for the bomb in the endzone and got the touchdown. Needless to say, one could call this insult to injury. The Rutgers coach did not care for running up the score this late in the game at all. The ESPN cameras got up real close as the coaches met post game. All I could hear was as follows: Rutger's coach: I did not think you were going to pull that type of #^*$. Jo Pa: Thats a bunch of bull-@!&% Rutger's coach: &^%& you As I said my virgin ears could not hear the &^%**$. To say the least they were angry at each other. At one point afterwards, Joe Pa went running after the Rutgers coach (I really don't know if he had peaceful intentions or he wanted to club him one), but he was restrained. I was equally surprised as the Rutger's coach. Joe Paterno said this past week he will not try to run up the score to impress pollsters. ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From Adam.S.Bass@students.Miami.EDU Sun Sep 24 20:45:19 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 20:45:16 -0500; AA02489 Received: from email.ir.miami.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 20:45:13 -0500 Received: by email.ir.miami.edu id AA16885 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4 for Wisconsin mailing list ); Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:45:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adam S. Bass" Subject: Samuel To: Wisconsin mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know this is going to seem like a ridiculous question after yesterday's game, but all we have down here in Florida is a boxscore, so here goes: I know Samuel got a little playing time, and threw a couple passes. How did he look, did he have zip on the ball, etc? I'm not saying this to start a QB controversy, I'm a big Bevell fan, I'm just curious for next year. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Adam S. Bass abass@email.ir.miami.edu On Wisconsin! From chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Sun Sep 24 23:07:35 1995 Received: from natasha.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 23:07:33 -0500; AA03066 From: chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu (Trishul Chilimbi) Message-Id: <9509250407.AA08933@natasha.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by natasha.cs.wisc.edu; Sun, 24 Sep 95 23:07:32 -0500 Subject: Re: SMU To: bucky@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:07:31 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9509242052.AA00309@io.che.wisc.edu> from "Brian Saunders" at Sep 24, 95 03:52:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1264 > I disagree. I felt Wisconsin was quite sloppy against EMU last year, and I > got picked apart on this list for pointing that out - when I was "supposed" > to be woofing about a 56-0 victory. Of course, our next game was against > Colorado, and my worst fears came true. > > Anyway, I thought Wisconsin looked pretty sharp yesterday, EXCEPT for a bit > of a penalty problem. > I agree. However before we "woof" about this victory, I want to point out that SMU was playing with a lot of their second stringers due to injuries (primarily on their D I think). Moreover their 3rd string quarterback played most of the game and he was awful! I don't mean to take anything away from our fine performance both on O & D, it's just the quality of the opposition I'm concerned about. Having said that, I don't think that PSU this year is quite as good as Colorado. I saw bits of the PSU-Rutgers game and agree with Manuvir's assessment that we have a legitimate shot at winning. It looks to be a high scoring game. OSU on the other hand is a different story and I don't think we have a shot at winning that game though I'd love to be proven wrong. Also our 1-1-1 record so far doesn't look that bad with Colorado beating A&M and Stanford beating Oregon. -Trishul From Sippycable@aol.com Mon Sep 25 00:28:43 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 00:28:42 -0500; AA03465 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 00:28:40 -0500 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA11297 for bucky@cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:28:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:28:40 -0400 From: Sippycable@aol.com Message-Id: <950925012838_108084229@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: SMU This was the first game I did not see, save for the boxscore, and I am sure the team looked pretty good. It was just what they needed, a real cream puff upon whom they could let out their frustrations. Games like this can be very helpful as far as replenishing a team's confidence in their own abilities. The Badgers do have many talented players on both sides of the ball and are a good team. And yes, I suppose the 1-1-1 mark is augmented by their opponents' records. But, and you really must be able to see the but, the only complete game complete team effort came against SMU. I do not want to take away from the win but beating college football's doormat on your own home field is not exactly adequate preparation for playing a perennial powerhouse on their field. The Badgers beating SMU like that is kind of like the NY Jets beating up on poor Jacksonville. Throw a couple of TD's against an expansion team and all of a sudden everyone thinks they're good. Then they score three points against what was the worst passing defense in football. Do not read too much into Saturday's win. Hopefully it did reinvigorate and revitalize the team but it's going to take a lot more than that to win at Penn State. I would love to see the upset but don't count on it. From chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 00:58:08 1995 Received: from natasha.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 00:58:04 -0500; AA04057 From: chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu (Trishul Chilimbi) Message-Id: <9509250558.AA08967@natasha.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by natasha.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 00:58:00 -0500 Subject: Re: SMU To: Sippycable@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 00:57:59 -0500 (CDT) Cc: bucky@natasha.cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <950925012838_108084229@mail04.mail.aol.com> from "Sippycable@aol.com" at Sep 25, 95 01:28:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1483 > > This was the first game I did not see, save for the boxscore, and I am sure > the team looked pretty good. It was just what they needed, a real cream puff > upon whom they could let out their frustrations. Games like this can be very > helpful as far as replenishing a team's confidence in their own abilities. > The Badgers do have many talented players on both sides of the ball and are > a good team. And yes, I suppose the 1-1-1 mark is augmented by their > opponents' records. But, and you really must be able to see the but, the > only complete game complete team effort came against SMU. I do not want to > take away from the win but beating college football's doormat on your own > home field is not exactly adequate preparation for playing a perennial > powerhouse on their field. The Badgers beating SMU like that is kind of like > the NY Jets beating up on poor Jacksonville. Throw a couple of TD's against > an expansion team and all of a sudden everyone thinks they're good. Then > they score three points against what was the worst passing defense in > football. Wait a sec here -- SMU are not exactly creampuffs. They played #10 Oklahoma fairly close (24-10, 9-3 at halftime, 17-10 end of 3rd Q) last week. They also beat Arkansas (who beat Alabama). Admittedly, as I pointed out in my earlier post, SMU had a couple of injuries, but I still think it was a good win for the Badgers and I expect (hope for) a close game at Happy Valley. -Trishul From Sippycable@aol.com Mon Sep 25 01:27:58 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 01:27:56 -0500; AA05328 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 01:27:54 -0500 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA07654 for bucky@cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 02:27:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 02:27:54 -0400 From: Sippycable@aol.com Message-Id: <950925022753_108112627@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: SMU It is very idealistic to say SMU is not that bad. It is too easy to look at Saturday's game, this team, and this season through rose(No pun intended)--colored glasses. Pardon my french, but SMU s---ks. Period. Nevertheless, it is time to look to this coming Saturday. I really don't think the secondary was tested by the mighty Mustang offense and now they have added a total of four career starts, collectively to their experience. Let me reiterate that I want The Badgers to win and I will be as upset as anyone if and when they lose, but I just can't see Wisconsin upsetting PSU. How can anyone looking at this gane objectively expect a close game in HAppy Valley? What reason do we have to think the BAdgers can stay with the Lions at Penn State, because they hung with Colorado in MAdison? And you can't throw the Stanford game in there as a comparison. That game should have been played in the WAC, where it is amazing when defenses even walk onto the field. If WIsconsin were to win, it would be a major, not a mild upset. If the game is close, I will be pleasantly surprised. From chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 02:23:45 1995 Received: from natasha.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 02:23:44 -0500; AA05640 From: chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu (Trishul Chilimbi) Message-Id: <9509250723.AA09094@natasha.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by natasha.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 02:23:43 -0500 Subject: PSU/ Rutgers (was Re: SMU) To: bucky@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 02:23:42 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199509242153.QAA27242@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> from "Thomas Glaser" at Sep 24, 95 04:53:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 549 > With a little more than one minute to play, it was first down and Penn State > was up by at least two touchdowns. With Penn State's 2nd and 3rd stringers > in they went for the bomb in the endzone and got the touchdown. > PSU fans claim that the QB audibled that play when he saw the D line up. Apparently a camera shot of the sidelines immediately after that play showed a surprised Joe Pa asking his assistants what happened. They also claim that he ran over after the game to apologize but Graber didn't give him a chance to. -Trishul From jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Mon Sep 25 06:49:03 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 06:49:00 -0500; AA06680 Received: from intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 06:48:58 -0500 Received: by intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA04702; Mon, 25 Sep 95 06:49:24 -0500 Message-Id: <9509251149.AA04702@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v118.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.3) From: Jon Haveman Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 06:49:21 -0500 To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Fieldhouse voting / Camp Randall expansion Reply-To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu References: <9509221735.AA31733@io.che.wisc.edu> Just to add a little info. There is active talk among those who make these decisions of both keeping the field house and filling out the bowl of the stadium. People here have been talking as though these two were inconsistent with each other. They are not. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 12:35:26 -0500 Reply-To: saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Sender: owner-bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: Brian Saunders To: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Fieldhouse voting / Camp Randall expansion X-To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.1 -- ListProcessor by CREN 6 people voted to raze the Fieldhouse; 16 voted to keep it. The most amusing suggestion I saw was from somebody who wanted it razed. They suggested that Karleton Armstrong (one of the Sterling Hall bombers) was still in town, and might be willing to take care of things. Yeah - it was in poor taste - but I still chuckled. I agree with those that pointed out that there is always room for practice facilities on campus, and with that in mind, the building should be kept. They probably could get away with a minimal amount of renovation, anyway. I think you'd have to probably have to make a few structural improvements, and do a little more with locker-room space, but that would be about it. I guess one could put a parking where the Fieldhouse is now, but they could also build ramps next to the Fieldhouse (in that square lot) or in the big Engineering lot (this is being planned already), so that would not be a sufficient reason in itself. Some people mentioned that a seating expansion could be done down in that endzone, but those seats would be crummy, and the students would probably get moved there from O and P. :^) I think any real expansion plans would call for an upper deck on the other side of the field, but at least to me, that seems like a MAJOR undertaking. Camp Randall expansion is another issue in itself. I think you have to be REALLY careful about that, and make sure we have a sustainable, winning program that is drawing consistent sellouts before you take that plunge. I have a sneaky suspicion that the students who remember the Rose Bowl season are starting to thin out, and that a few lackluster seasons will result in a significant drop-off in student ticket sales. Of course, it seems there is enough demand from alumni and Madisonians to more than make up for that dropoff, at least for now, but they'll eventually disappear, too. I find it interesting how you could only be selling 40,000 seats, probably about 1/5 of that students, and have 50,000 people complaining about how they saw the team during bad times, and now are being screwed on tickets. The numbers don't add up. :^) Kind of like 100,000 people being at the game where Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points. Brian From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Mon Sep 25 07:42:19 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 07:42:17 -0500; AA07873 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 07:42:15 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 25 Sep 95 07:42:32 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 07:46:01 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 07:45:41 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:45:32 GMT-5 Subject: Re: B-ball coach Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <12B5ADB752F@amber.indstate.edu> > > The word at > >that time seemed to be that the mutual fund guy from Milwaukee who's name > >escapes me right now, the one who supposedly put up the $$ to buy out SVG and > >was rumored to be putting up the $$ for the new arena before Herb Kohl > >stepped up to the plate (but didn't I read that the guy eventually did pony > >up $10 million towards the Kohl Arena?), insisted on Bennett for the job. > >Don't know how true that is but it certainly makes a great story. > > > > His name is Nicholas...He played outstanding b-ball for UW in the late 40s... And from an investment point of view, his mutual funds suck. Jon From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Mon Sep 25 08:03:12 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:03:10 -0500; AA07960 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:03:08 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:03:25 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 08:06:55 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 08:06:51 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:06:47 GMT-5 Subject: Re: SMU Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <12BB52021F0@amber.indstate.edu> I read in the paper yesterday that the QB actually audibled out of a running play to throw that pass. I guess JoPa did not explain that he did not want the QB to start audibling that way. Anyway that resulted in the following exchange: > Rutger's coach: I did not think you were going to pull that type of #^*$. JoPa: (stuff about the QB audible) Rutger's coach: That's bull-&%^$ > Jo Pa: Thats a bunch of bull-@!&% > Rutger's coach: &^%& you > > As I said my virgin ears could not hear the &^%**$. To say the least they > were angry at each other. At one point afterwards, Joe Pa went running > after the Rutgers coach (I really don't know if he had peaceful intentions > or he wanted to club him one), but he was restrained. Who can blame him for running up the score after how he was screwed last year? Your damned if you do, your damned if you don't. IMO, the NCAA needs a playoff now more than ever, OR it will have to develop some type of system that allows teams to bwe judged on their actual value and not the scores they put up against rediculously weak opponents. All this current system does is allow teams to play against sub-standard opponents and be rewarded for that. These days you can count the number of good non-conf. games on one hand. Jon *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Mon Sep 25 08:06:56 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:06:54 -0500; AA08010 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:06:45 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:06:59 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 08:10:29 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 08:10:10 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:10:05 GMT-5 Subject: PSU Question Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <12BC3453F1D@amber.indstate.edu> Just a quick question: Wisconsin does play PSU NEXT week right? Not in two weeks. I heard once that this was going to be televised on ESPN. Is that the case? Well, good luck. Wisconsin beating PSU in Happy Valley with the Lion's passing game and the Badger's pass defense (or lack thereof) would be a rather large upset. The Badgers can do it IF they put together the perfect game. Jon *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From MISKOWSKI@vilas.uwex.edu Mon Sep 25 08:39:23 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:39:20 -0500; AA08384 Received: from shaggy.uwex.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:39:19 -0500 Received: from by shaggy.uwex.edu; id AB25392; 4.1/42; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:39:58 CDT Received: From SCOOBY/WORKQUEUE by charon1.uwex.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950925083240.5792; 25 Sep 95 08:39:09 +600 Message-Id: To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: "Jon Miskowski, 608/263-0299" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:31:49 CDT Subject: Re: Samuel Priority: normal X-Mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R1) I know Samuel got a little playing time, and threw a couple passes. How did he look, did he have zip on the ball, etc? Well he handed off with no problem and that could be good preparation for next year. He made one bad throw on an out pattern(threw it into the turf). Next play they threw the same ball and he put it on a line and on the money. He looked OK. As for arm strength...I don't think that's a problem. He threw long against Colorado and got it down the field, but it was picked off by the safety. Jon M From glaser@univbkstr.com Mon Sep 25 09:37:56 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 09:37:54 -0500; AA08945 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 09:37:51 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA31963 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:17:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:17:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199509251517.KAA31963@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: PSU/ Rutgers (was Re: SMU) X-Mailer: >> With a little more than one minute to play, it was first down and Penn State >> was up by at least two touchdowns. With Penn State's 2nd and 3rd stringers >> in they went for the bomb in the endzone and got the touchdown. >> > PSU fans claim that the QB audibled that play when he saw the D >line up. Apparently a camera shot of the sidelines immediately after that >play showed a surprised Joe Pa asking his assistants what happened. They >also claim that he ran over after the game to apologize but Graber didn't >give him a chance to. > I had a feeling that was the case. Joe P. ran over to the Rutger's sideline as soon as the game ended. He was half way across the field before anyone came off the sidelines to leave the game. He did not have a happy look on his face after the play either. Also, he said in a press conference last week, that he was not going to run up the score to impress pollsters. I was wondering if they apologized to each other off the field or not. It looked like a heat of the moment thing. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From glaser@univbkstr.com Mon Sep 25 09:50:05 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 09:50:02 -0500; AA09161 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 09:50:00 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA32045 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:29:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:29:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199509251529.KAA32045@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: SMU X-Mailer: >Who can blame him for running up the score after how he was screwed >last year? Your damned if you do, your damned if you don't. IMO, >the NCAA needs a playoff now more than ever, OR it will have to >develop some type of system that allows teams to bwe judged on their >actual value and not the scores they put up against rediculously weak >opponents. > >All this current system does is allow teams to play against >sub-standard opponents and be rewarded for that. These days you can >count the number of good non-conf. games on one hand. One bowl at in mid January that would feature the Rose Bowl Champ vs. the Fiesta Bowl Champ. No one would have to worry about running up the score then and impressing pollsters. Either the 2 best teams will play in the Fiesta or Rose Bowl; or they will play in the bowl afterwards. I am afraid if you let the poll people seed playoff games there will be a reduced amount of teams in post season play. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From manuvir@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 12:27:40 1995 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 12:27:38 -0500; AA11167 Message-Id: <9509251727.AA21587@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu> Received: from localhost by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 12:27:18 -0500 To: Sippycable@aol.com Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: SMU In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Sep 1995 02:27:54 EDT." <950925022753_108112627@mail04.mail.aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:27:17 -0500 From: Manuvir Das >How can anyone looking at this gane objectively expect a close game in >HAppy Valley? What reason do we have to think the BAdgers can stay with the >Lions at Penn State I've watched PSU play a fair bit this year and they look vulnerable on defense. If we can take advantage of that we can score a lot of points on them. On the other hand I am sure they will score a lot of points on us. Hence I expect a shootout, and in that scenario anything can happen. Further, Barry will have the players pumped up for this game because if you think about it, the game really means a lot to the Badgers beyond its significance for this year. The win over SMU if nothing else will provide a lot of confidence to the young players on the team, esp in the secondary. Finally, Bevell looked good on Saturday, and that had little to do with the level of competition - he was throwing everything on the money. There is plenty of reason to think the Badgers will be competitive and that they have a realistic shot of winning this game. Obviously, I am not suggesting that they are going to win or that they are favourites to win in any sense, but these guys can be beat and I'm sure that Barry recognizes that. - Manuvir From drtroyer@students.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 13:17:53 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:17:51 -0500; AA12103 Received: from students.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:17:49 -0500 Received: from F180-092.net.wisc.edu by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id NAA21292; 8.6.9W/42; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:17:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199509251817.NAA21292@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: drtroyer@students.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: drtroyer@students.wisc.edu (Dean Troyer) Subject: B-Ball X-Mailer: I am sick of people getting South Milwaukee High School mixed up with Milwaukee South Division. Dan Lucyzwko is from South Milwaukee, WI, and plays for South Milwaukee High School not Milwauke South! >- Dan Lucyzwko 6'9" forward Milwaukee South; also considering Marquette, >Ohio U., Bradley, and Utah. > Dean R. Troyer Shared Governace Director United Council of University of Wisconsin Student Governments, Inc. From palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 13:37:38 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:37:36 -0500; AA12262 Received: from osnome.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:37:33 -0500 Received: by osnome.che.wisc.edu; id AA27609; 5.65/42; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:37:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:37:31 -0500 From: Ignasi Palou-Rivera Message-Id: <9509251837.AA27609@osnome.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Bball practice I was at the FieldHouse this morning to but season hockey tickets and got to see part of a basketball practice. They were obviously following NCAA regulations and it looked pretty strange. Only three players are allowed when the coack is present, but more can be there if the coach isn't. I got there aroung 7:45-8:00 and Bennet was teaching three players some basic drills. I saw Darnell Hoskins, Shawn Carlin and a new guard(?). When Bennet left three more players showed up. This time three bigger guys. I only recognized Booker Coleman, Oakey wasn't one of them. They played three-on-three ball for a while. After this the three guards left and Bennet reappeared and got the three big (sic) guys to practice some rebounding drill. Obviously this is not enough to say much about the team, but I want to make a couple of comments: * Darnell looked really good. He was cocky, taking shots whenever he was opena nd making them. I expect him to be the big leader of the team. * The other guard looked pretty good too. I'd like to know his name. * Booker Coleman played very well, dominating the inside game. His athletic qualities are quite evident. IMHO he's going to be or main offensive inside threat this year. Ignasi. From MISKOWSKI@vilas.uwex.edu Mon Sep 25 13:52:22 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:52:19 -0500; AA12479 Received: from shaggy.uwex.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:52:17 -0500 Received: from charon1.uwex.edu by shaggy.uwex.edu; id AA27007; 4.1/42; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:52:56 CDT Received: From SCOOBY/WORKQUEUE by charon1.uwex.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950925135131.448; 25 Sep 95 13:52:07 +600 Message-Id: To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: "Jon Miskowski, 608/263-0299" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:51:22 CDT Subject: Who Played Priority: normal X-Mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R1) I was curious about the playing rotation on Saturday--as far as I could tell: - Daryl Carter started. I didnt see Diatelivi play a down.(Before the season Barry said his nickel def was to put Carter in at a linebacker.) - Yocum didn't play. Tom Burke got quite a bit of time. - Did Adamov start? He played a lot and I don't remember seeing Leonard Taylor till the mid 3rd quarter? - Roberson was the first to substitute for McCullough--but I think that was his only play. The next play Stecker came in for Roberson and that was the last I saw of him. - I saw Cantrell play a few plays and saw run off the field(actually it kind of looked like a limp) but it seems that he is not rotating with Cecil Martin anymore. Is he fully recovered from his injury? Jon M From MSONNEBO@lans.mha.org Mon Sep 25 14:24:48 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:24:45 -0500; AA13224 Received: from vixa.voyager.net by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:24:43 -0500 Received: from mailgtwy.mha.org (mailgtwy.mha.org [198.109.138.3]) by vixa.voyager.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA24359 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:22:12 -0400 Received: by mailgtwy.mha.org with Microsoft Mail id <30670194@mailgtwy.mha.org>; Mon, 25 Sep 95 15:23:00 EDT From: Mark Sonneborn To: "'Bucky list'" Subject: PSU Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 15:22:00 EDT Message-Id: <30670194@mailgtwy.mha.org> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Just to add to the controversy, that late score was needed to cover the spread. You don't suppose that Joe Pa is a gamblin' man do ya? Seriously though, I lost a lot of respect for Paterno on Saturday. For a guy who supposedly is outspoken against running up the score, that was blatant. And I don't care if he said afterwards that the QB audibled that play. Someone said he did not look happy. Well, if he was so unhappy, why didn't he go scream at his QB for doing it. Rutgers' coach definitely did NOT over-react, and Joe was lucky he didn't get punched. He was even lucky he came over to shake hands. Again JoePa--no class and poor, poor sportsmanship. From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Mon Sep 25 14:50:37 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:50:34 -0500; AA13616 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:50:31 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:50:46 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 14:54:16 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 25 Sep 95 14:54:03 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:53:57 GMT-5 Subject: Re: PSU Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <1327EB9127E@amber.indstate.edu> > Seriously though, I lost a lot of respect for Paterno on Saturday. For a > guy who supposedly is outspoken against running up the score, that was > blatant. And I don't care if he said afterwards that the QB audibled that > play. Someone said he did not look happy. Well, if he was so unhappy, why > didn't he go scream at his QB for doing it. How do you know he didn't? Were you in the locker room after the game? >Rutgers' coach definitely did > NOT over-react, and Joe was lucky he didn't get punched. I'm sorry, but I think Joe Pa had a perfectly good explanation that was quickly and rather rudely dismissed by the Rutger's coach. Sure he was angry, but this is football. PSU is NOT going to quit playing in light of what happend last year. They did not have their starters in, and their back-ups are going to play ball. > Again JoePa--no class and poor, poor > sportsmanship. Well, IMO he has more sportsmanship than most coaches in the NCAA. That's not saying much I know, but it is something. Jon *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From glaser@univbkstr.com Mon Sep 25 15:03:54 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 15:03:51 -0500; AA13745 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 15:03:48 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA02433 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:43:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:43:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199509252043.PAA02433@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: PSU X-Mailer: >. Rutgers' coach definitely did >NOT over-react, and Joe was lucky he didn't get punched. I often wonder if it were the Badgers playing, if Barry would have punched him (or would have felt like punching him). Part of me believes that Barry would have been POed. Another part of me says that he would be upset with his team for letting PSU blow them away. Or both. Of course, I have faith that IF the Badgers lose on Saturday, they won't be blown out. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 15:18:39 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 15:18:36 -0500; AA13953 Received: from castor.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 15:18:29 -0500 Received: by castor.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Feb95-0139PM) id AA21094; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:18:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:18:28 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9509252018.AA21094@castor.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu, glaser@univbkstr.com Subject: Re: PSU >> Rutgers' coach definitely did NOT over-react, and Joe was lucky he >> didn't get punched. Yeah - perhaps. Given the PLAY that was called, I'd have to agree with this. But in general, I pretty much agree with what Bill Conlan (the fat guy on the "Sports Reporters") said. I am sick and tired of all this "run up the score" whining. If the teams really didn't like it, they wouldn't schedule powerhouses like Florida State. But you know - they still do. Could $$$ have anything to do with it? :^) Bottom line: if you don't want to lose to Florida State by 50 points, you either take them off your schedule, or develop a team that can compete. If you can't take the heat... > I often wonder if it were the Badgers playing, if Barry would have punched > him (or would have felt like punching him). Oh, REALLY? Gee, I looked up on the scoreboard Saturday, and there was only a small amount of time left on the clock when Rutgers was trying to make its final drive for a score. Guess who still had most of their first-team defense in the game? Maybe the offensive plan was not to run up the score, but their certainly was a defensive plan to get a shutout. Now, I realize that conditioning has been a big question, especially with the defensive players, and that is probably why they played a full game. But to me, that was certainly not necessary, and Barry fits in right with those other guys. We cannot take the high road here. > Part of me believes that Barry would have been POed. Another part of me > says that he would be upset with his team for letting PSU blow them away. > Or both. I don't. He'd not complain publicly about running up the score. Wisconsin is still a decent team, and a huge win over them would be impressive. He might think it was bad sportsmanship, but he would keep that private with the other coach. On the other hand, a blowout loss is a good motivational tool, one that I'm sure he would be willing to use. Brian From manuvir@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 17:04:24 1995 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:04:22 -0500; AA14955 Message-Id: <9509252204.AA22002@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu> Received: from localhost by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:04:19 -0500 To: MSONNEBO@lans.mha.org Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: PSU In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:22:00 EDT." <30670194@mailgtwy.mha.org> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:04:18 -0500 From: Manuvir Das >Well, if he was so unhappy, why >didn't he go scream at his QB for doing it. >Again JoePa--no class and poor, poor >sportsmanship. I would have lost more respect for him if he had shouted at his QB on national TV. As for the other coach, my guess is that he was frustrated with the way the game went - his team hung in there and scored a lot of points and would have had a chance had they not blown it early. I would say he's the bad sport for being a poor loser. - Manuvir From glaser@univbkstr.com Mon Sep 25 17:20:09 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:20:06 -0500; AA15264 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:20:03 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA03476 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:59:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:59:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199509252259.RAA03476@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: PSU X-Mailer: >> I often wonder if it were the Badgers playing, if Barry would have punched >> him (or would have felt like punching him). > >Oh, REALLY? Gee, I looked up on the scoreboard Saturday, and there was >only a small amount of time left on the clock when Rutgers was trying to >make its final drive for a score. Guess who still had most of their >first-team defense in the game? Maybe the offensive plan was not to run up >the score, but their certainly was a defensive plan to get a shutout. You mean SMU??? His motivation is to cultivate the young team not insult his opponents. I am sure the SMU coach understood. I don't think, (my opinion) if we played Rutgers to a 43-0 game on Saturday, the Rutgers coach would be POed. UW does not make it a point to pummel teams in the last minute of the game. (ie--Badgers go long to Simmons with 1:?? left for a 50-0 lead) >Now, I realize that conditioning has been a big question, especially with >the defensive players, and that is probably why they played a full game. >But to me, that was certainly not necessary, and Barry fits in right with >those other guys. We cannot take the high road here. > >> Part of me believes that Barry would have been POed. Another part of me >> says that he would be upset with his team for letting PSU blow them away. >> Or both. > >I don't. He'd not complain publicly about running up the score. Wisconsin >is still a decent team, and a huge win over them would be impressive. He >might think it was bad sportsmanship, but he would keep that private with >the other coach. > >On the other hand, a blowout loss is a good motivational tool, one that I'm >sure he would be willing to use. The only reason I question it is: a) Not that he would be POed about running the score up, but (more or less) that PSU is still out for blood with a minute to go in the game. It was the play selection under the circumstances, and not the score itself I was referring to. Any team that would do something like that, given the situation, is saying: "No, I don't believe we have punished you badly enough yet, here have another one". (personally--I don't believe I would have shaken a Paterno's hand either. There was something about that play that did not feel right.) It was insulting to throw the bomb when they could have let time run down by running it a few more plays. b) Barry has a temper. I am of the persuasion that teams should go and play. If it is a blow out, it is a blow out. No more attention should be given to it. This is football and you don't have to be nice (after all it is a tough guys game ;-> ). With one minute to go I question what was Joe Paterno thinking, or why he was not thinking (if he actually called the play). I guess I was just wondering how Barry would have felt, and how he would reacted. I am not saying Barry would have reacted in any particular way. I don't know (It is not as though I sit and eat dinner with the guy) :-) . It is natural to think of how your home team's coach would react in a given situation. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 17:47:58 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:47:55 -0500; AA15404 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 17:47:54 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA01146; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:47:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:47:53 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9509252247.AA01146@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu, glaser@univbkstr.com Subject: Re: PSU > I guess I was just wondering how Barry would have felt, and how he would > reacted. I am not saying Barry would have reacted in any particular way. I > don't know (It is not as though I sit and eat dinner with the guy) :-) . It > is natural to think of how your home team's coach would react in a given > situation. I think he'd get even later. I think Indiana's 63-14 loss here last year was mainly a reaction to the Colorado blowout, but it also was a bit of revenge for the game two years before that - where Wisconsin led 21-0 at the half only to lose 28-21. He just doesn't seem to me like somebody that has an explosive temper - it's more of a calculated, even temper. Brian From manuvir@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu Mon Sep 25 18:02:18 1995 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 18:02:14 -0500; AA15584 Message-Id: <9509252302.AA22089@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu> Received: from localhost by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 18:02:07 -0500 To: glaser@univbkstr.com Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: PSU In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:59:30 CDT." <199509252259.RAA03476@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:02:03 -0500 From: Manuvir Das >You mean SMU??? His motivation is to cultivate the young team not insult >his opponents. I am sure the SMU coach understood. I am sure he understood. He had a couple of opportunities at the end of the game to kick a gimme field goal on 4th down, which would have ruined the shutout, but he did not, which suggests that he was fine with Barry going for the shutout. He did try one field goal but that was a little earlier in the game. - Manuvir From jcharles@hawaii.edu Mon Sep 25 19:12:51 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 19:12:49 -0500; AA16285 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 19:12:45 -0500 Received: from uhunix2.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.7]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11530(6)>; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:12:29 -1000 Received: by uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <142430>; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:12:18 -1000 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:12:02 -1000 Sender: John Arsad Charles From: John Arsad Charles To: Bucky list Subject: Graber Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wasn't he an assistant under McClain? John C. From jnrosen@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Mon Sep 25 23:48:20 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 23:48:17 -0500; AA18130 Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Mon, 25 Sep 95 23:48:14 -0500 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id AAA25553 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:48:13 -0400 Received: (from jnrosen@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA10352; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:48:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:48:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy N Rosen Subject: scores of other games To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't really care about the Rutgers coach, and what he does or does not think of Joe Paterno. What say we discuss the big game Saturday instead? ---Jeremy Rosen "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, concerned citizens can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."---Margaret Mead jnrosen@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu 4507 N. Washington Boulevard #2 Arlington, VA. 22201 (703)516-9846 From MSONNEBO@lans.mha.org Tue Sep 26 07:46:38 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 07:46:35 -0500; AA23022 Received: from vixa.voyager.net by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 07:46:32 -0500 Received: from mailgtwy.mha.org (mailgtwy.mha.org [198.109.138.3]) by vixa.voyager.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA15963; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:44:02 -0400 Received: by mailgtwy.mha.org with Microsoft Mail id <3067F5C1@mailgtwy.mha.org>; Tue, 26 Sep 95 08:44:49 EDT From: Mark Sonneborn To: Manuvir Das Cc: "'Bucky list'" Subject: Re: PSU Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 08:46:00 EDT Message-Id: <3067F5C1@mailgtwy.mha.org> Encoding: 36 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I'm willing to accept your premise that the Rutgers coach didn't handle the situation with as much class as he could have. But, he would have been much more gracious had Joe Hypocriterno's team scored their last TD on a running play, rather than a 60 yard bomb. That was as blatant a case of running up the score as I've ever seen. The Rutgers coach was rightfully angry and he said something in the heat of the moment. Yeah, he was wrong to do it on national TV, but let's put the most of the blame where it belongs--on Penn. St. As for your point about yelling at the QB, if he had at least pulled him over to tell him what he did was wrong, or tell the assistant , or show some form of displeasure with that call, then I wouldn't have lost my respect. ---------- From: Manuvir Das To: MSONNEBO Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: PSU Date: Monday, September 25, 1995 5:04PM >Well, if he was so unhappy, why >didn't he go scream at his QB for doing it. >Again JoePa--no class and poor, poor >sportsmanship. I would have lost more respect for him if he had shouted at his QB on national TV. As for the other coach, my guess is that he was frustrated with the way the game went - his team hung in there and scored a lot of points and would have had a chance had they not blown it early. I would say he's the bad sport for being a poor loser. - Manuvir From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 10:54:28 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 10:54:25 -0500; AA23980 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 10:54:23 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA00516; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:54:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:54:22 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9509261554.AA00516@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: scores of other games > I don't really care about the Rutgers coach, and what he does or does not > think of Joe Paterno. What say we discuss the big game Saturday instead? Well, then DO IT! There is nothing lamer than somebody posting "let's talk about other things" without doing so themselves. I predict Penn State will win 42-21. Anybody else? Brian From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Tue Sep 26 11:12:05 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:12:02 -0500; AA25514 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:11:59 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:12:12 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 26 Sep 95 11:15:44 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 26 Sep 95 11:15:03 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:15:02 GMT-5 Subject: PSU Prediction Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <146D8AF09C8@amber.indstate.edu> > I predict Penn State will win 42-21. Anybody else? Prediction: Another Colorado? Well, not quite, but I don't think it will be that much better. Although not as strong on either side of the ball as last year's team, PSU is still very potent. Wisconsin will have a tough time with Engram unless they change their style of defense - needs to be more aggressive. I honestly don't know much about their running game, but it's usually pretty good. Offesively Wisconsin should be able to move the ball on the ground. Mac Cullough and Stecker are solid. Bevell will need to have a huge day - eliminate the mental mistakes. All in all however, I don't think it will be a good day. 42-21 sounds about right. I'll always hold out hope because sometimes the Lions just simply don't show up. Playing in front of 95,000 in Happy Valley should prove interesting. Jon *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From td@gfdl.GOV Tue Sep 26 11:13:39 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:13:37 -0500; AA25520 Received: from GFDL.GOV by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:13:34 -0500 Received: from td.GFDL.GOV by gfdl.GOV (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06782; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:14:55 EDT From: td@gfdl.GOV (Tom Delworth) Received: by td.GFDL.GOV (940816.SGI.8.6.9/GFDL-Client) id MAA11588; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:14:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199509261614.MAA11588@td.GFDL.GOV> Subject: PSU prediction To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:14:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 487 PSU 35, WI 17 (I'd love to be wrong on this!) I think Happy Valley will be a very tough place for the Badgers. On the positive side, though, PSU hasn't been all that impressive this year ... they can be beaten. If Bevell plays well the game could be close. If he's off, it's hard to see how WI could be competitive. Is there a natural grass field at PSU? (I think so). Any thoughts on whether WI does better on the rug or real grass? Or does it matter at all? Tom D From Tom_Potter@optilink.optilink.dsccc.com Tue Sep 26 11:53:09 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:53:04 -0500; AA26413 Received: from relay2.UU.NET by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:53:02 -0500 Received: from offramp.dsccc.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQziwp00633; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:53:00 -0400 Received: by offramp.dsccc.com (5.67b/SMI-V1.8) id AA18879; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:51:22 -0500 Received: from onramp(192.245.102.129) by offramp via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma018860; Tue Sep 26 11:51:00 1995 Received: from optilink.dsccc.com (optilink.optilink.dsccc.com [192.9.200.1]) by camelot.dsccc.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA23887 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:51:00 -0500 Received: from miami.optilink.dsccc.com by optilink.dsccc.com with smtp id m0sxdDf-0002MdC; Tue, 26 Sep 95 09:50 PDT Received: by miami.optilink.dsccc.com id m0sxd74-000027C; Tue, 26 Sep 95 09:44 PDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 09:44 PDT From: Tom_Potter@optilink.optilink.dsccc.com To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: UW/PSU Penn St. 37 Wisconsin 10 By the way did you all notice that two of Stanford's starting offensive linemen have the last names "Buckey" and "Badger"? __________________________________________________________ | | | Tom Potter | | DSC Communications, Access Systems Group, Petaluma, CA | | email: potter@optilink.dsccc.com | | | | Lawyer's Disclaimer: | | Opinions expressed and/or implied are mine, and are not | | representative of DSC Communications, or of any other | | company, living or dead. | |__________________________________________________________| From jmatel@digital.net Tue Sep 26 12:01:54 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:01:51 -0500; AA26544 Received: from ddi.digital.net by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:01:49 -0500 Received: from pm2_15.digital.net (pm2_15.digital.net [198.69.104.145]) by ddi.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02577; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:01:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:01:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199509261701.NAA02577@ddi.digital.net> X-Sender: jmatel@digital.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: td@gfdl.GOV From: John Matelski Subject: Re: PSU prediction Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Unfortunately I see this as a rout PSU 45 WI 10 :( From MCKINNEY@macalstr.edu Tue Sep 26 12:02:58 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:02:56 -0500; AA26564 Received: from apollo.cc.macalstr.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:02:54 -0500 Received: from macalstr.edu by macalstr.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #10650) id <01HVQBXC6BCW0002KK@macalstr.edu> for bucky@cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:02:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:59:03 -0600 (CST) From: MCKINNEY@macalstr.edu To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Message-Id: <01HVQC3H7ET40002KK@macalstr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT PSU 45 WI 20 Engram will be VERY tough to stop and PSU's defense really is a lot better than they played on Saturday night against Rutgers. I think Paterno will be pretty upset with how they played on Sat. and will have the defense ready to go in front of a loud Happy Valley crowd. If UW falls behind early, forget it. Bevell and Co. may put up a few points, but PSU will keep rolling. Scott From Sippycable@aol.com Tue Sep 26 12:41:07 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:41:05 -0500; AA27093 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 12:41:03 -0500 Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA06038 for bucky@cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:41:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:41:02 -0400 From: Sippycable@aol.com Message-Id: <950926134102_109391217@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: PSU prediction It is very nice to see other educated sports fans who can see through the love for their teams and realize that Saturday just isn't going to be a win for the UW football team. We can always hope but... PSU 44 UW 10 From carey@gcrca.biostat.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 14:08:01 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:07:58 -0500; AA29669 Received: from gcrca.biostat.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:07:57 -0500 Received: by gcrca.biostat.wisc.edu; id AA27173; 5.57/38; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:08:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:08:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Carey Subject: Re: PSU prediction To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <950926134102_109391217@mail02.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'll give you a prediction: Wisconsin 31 PSU 30 Yup, I see the Badgers pulling this one out and here are some numbers: 1st Quarter 2nd Quarter 3rd Quarter 4th Quarter Final UW 10 0 14 7 31 PSU 0 14 7 9 30 McCullough 28 rushes for 182 yards, 1 touchdown Stecker 12 rushes for 68 yards Bevell 12 - 16 - 0 for 210 yards and 2 touchdowns Final play of the game: Adamov clocks Engram in the endzone to thwart PSU's 2 point attempt (remniscent of Tucker doing it against Minnesota). Why? Because Wisconsin isn't as good as OSU - but they're better than Texas Tech. Patrick From jjroe@students.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 14:19:36 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:19:33 -0500; AA29849 Received: from students.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:19:31 -0500 Received: from [144.92.47.11] by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id OAA44489; 8.6.9W/42; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:19:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:19:29 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: jjroe@students.wisc.edu (Jeremy Roe) Subject: PSU prediction UW 35 PSU 28 Barry will have the boys ready. -Jammin' Jer From glaser@univbkstr.com Tue Sep 26 14:41:07 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:41:05 -0500; AA29950 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA09623 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:20:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:20:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199509262020.PAA09623@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: PSU prediction X-Mailer: So far we have: 42-21 PSU (2) 35-17 PSU 45-20 PSU 44-10 PSU 37-10 PSU 45-10 PSU OK...I'm willing to get a little nutty...UW does not give up any big plays...UW runs for 275 yards...Bevell has not done anything real dumb this year so far...So Bevell will throws for 175+ yards, 1 int, 1-2 TDs...Special teams gets their act together...Secondary holds Engram at bay...Somebody on the team kicks 2 FGs... Were looking at 34-32 UW. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From sjemmerich@ENH.NIST.GOV Tue Sep 26 14:49:53 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:49:51 -0500; AA00115 Received: from enh.nist.gov by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:49:42 -0500 Received: from cement (cement.nist.gov) by ENH.NIST.GOV (PMDF V5.0-4 #10952) id <01HVQJBYSS68002H4R@ENH.NIST.GOV> for bucky@cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:27:21 -0400 From: sjemmerich@ENH.NIST.GOV (Steven J Emmerich) Subject: Re: PSU prediction X-Sender: sjemmerich@enh.nist.gov (Unverified) To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Message-Id: <01HVQJBZCLWI002H4R@ENH.NIST.GOV> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >Return-path: >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:41:02 -0400 >From: Sippycable@aol.com >Subject: Re: PSU prediction >Sender: owner-bucky@cs.wisc.edu >To: Bucky Badger s Followers >Reply-to: Sippycable@aol.com >Precedence: bulk >X-To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu >X-Listprocessor-version: 7.1 -- ListProcessor by CREN > >It is very nice to see other educated sports fans who can see through the "educated" - hah. A bunch of gutless bandwagoneers is more like it. Barry always seems to win one against the odds - Wisconsin 35 PSU 27. ----------------------- Steve Emmerich sjemmerich@enh.nist.gov (301) 975-6459 From gholt@cmotor.com Tue Sep 26 15:49:16 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:49:13 -0500; AA00412 Received: from [199.4.94.234] by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:49:10 -0500 Received: from ([192.4.200.180]) by narya.cmotor.com with SMTP id AA07980 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:43:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:43:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199509262043.AA07980@narya.cmotor.com> X-Sender: gholt@cmotor.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: gholt@cmotor.com (Gannon Holt) Subject: PSU Score X-Mailer: I'm going to hedge a little. If the Badgers score first and can get up by 10 points in the first half they have a shot at grinding the rest of the game out on the ground. UW 24 PSU 20 If the Badgers don't (probably won't) and PSU gets up early, its going to be a very long game for RED. UW 13 PSU 38 Gman From rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 15:49:21 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:49:19 -0500; AA00419 Received: from meteor.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:49:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:53:00 GMT From: rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu (Rob Holmes) Message-Id: <9509262053.AA15306@meteor.meteor.wisc.edu> Received: by meteor.meteor.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:53:00 GMT To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: PSU prediction Penn State 47 Wisconsin 9 From chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 16:19:14 1995 Received: from natasha.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:19:06 -0500; AA01065 From: chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu (Trishul Chilimbi) Message-Id: <9509262118.AA10677@natasha.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by natasha.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:18:58 -0500 Subject: PSU Prediction To: bucky@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:18:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 233 My prediction Badgers 35 Lions 31 Rationale: 1> I'm an optimist (hell yes, I wear rose colored glasses). 2> PSU is not nearly as good as Colorado, especially on D. 3> Badgers have improved since the Colorado game. -Trishul From kurhajec@ssec.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 16:30:07 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:30:05 -0500; AA01273 Received: from ssec.ssec.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:30:03 -0500 Received: by ssec.ssec.wisc.edu; id AA71593; AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/42; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:30:02 -0500 From: "Joe Kurhajec" Message-Id: <9509261630.ZM27047@ssec.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:30:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 31aug95) To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: PSU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wisc 45 PSU 10 -- JoePa tries a little too hard to keep from running up the score. -- Joe Kurhajec From glaser@univbkstr.com Tue Sep 26 17:26:05 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:26:02 -0500; AA02879 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:26:00 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA11200 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:05:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:05:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199509262305.SAA11200@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Bucky Badger s Followers From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Prediction Survey X-Mailer: So far we have (as of 5:30pm): 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) 31-30 UW (Carey) 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) Any others? ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Tue Sep 26 17:40:04 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:40:01 -0500; AA03186 Received: from intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:39:59 -0500 Received: by intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA06928; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:40:27 -0500 Message-Id: <9509262240.AA06928@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v118.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.3) From: Jon Haveman Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:40:25 -0500 To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Prediction Survey Reply-To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu I'll go with Bucky at 28-24. Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:05:49 -0500 Reply-To: glaser@univbkstr.com Sender: owner-bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) To: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Prediction Survey X-To: Bucky Badger s Followers X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com X-Mailer: X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.1 -- ListProcessor by CREN So far we have (as of 5:30pm): 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) 31-30 UW (Carey) 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) Any others? ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: glaser@univbkstr.com, bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu (Ben Stapleton) Subject: Re: Prediction Survey > >Any others? Bucky 17, PSU 34. Prove me wrong, please. Ben Stapleton bbstaple@students.wisc.edu Go Regent Hurricanes fax (608) 829-2680 "Being with a woman never hurt no professional baseball player. It's staying up all night looking for a woman that does him in." - Casey Stengel From PBOETTCHER@APS.UoGuelph.CA Tue Sep 26 18:21:36 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:21:33 -0500; AA04491 Received: from ccshst06.cs.uoguelph.ca by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:21:31 -0500 Received: from ansci.nw.uoguelph.ca by ccshst06.cs.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA192887686; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 19:21:26 -0400 Received: from ANSCI/MAILQ by ansci.nw.uoguelph.ca (Mercury 1.21); 26 Sep 95 19:21:26 GMT-5 Received: from MAILQ by ANSCI (Mercury 1.21); 26 Sep 95 19:10:41 GMT-5 From: "Paul Boettcher" Organization: Animal & Poultry Science To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 19:10:38 EDT Subject: prediction Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <260F6C01BFE@ansci.nw.uoguelph.ca> Everyone seems to be either predicting a PSU blowout, or a close Wisconsin victory. So I'll say... Penn State 27 Wisconsin 21 Paul From manuvir@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 18:32:51 1995 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:32:49 -0500; AA04741 Message-Id: <9509262332.AA24006@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu> Received: from localhost by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:32:44 -0500 To: glaser@univbkstr.com Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: Prediction Survey In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:05:49 CDT." <199509262305.SAA11200@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:32:44 -0500 From: Manuvir Das Wisconsin 28 PennState 24 I figure the Badgers will score on two long drives in each half (the Lions cannot stop #13, and that will open up the play action for #11 (nobody does the play action better than Bevell.)) I pick 24 for the Lions because in the 3rd-early fourth qtr when the Lions stall on a drive JoePa will kick the FG instead of going for it on 4th down. I say this because Paterno has a good sense of history and he'll therefore remember the Michigan game from 2 years ago where he tried to punch it in on 4th down, failed, and ended up losing a game the Lions had control of. Btw, how did this prediction thing start and why are we wasting so much bandwidth on these predictions? I suppose I should banish all those who sent in their guesses. :) - Manuvir From djdettor@students.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 20:28:07 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:28:04 -0500; AA05719 Received: from students.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:28:01 -0500 Received: from [144.92.214.202] by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id UAA55058; 8.6.9W/42; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:27:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:27:56 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Bucky Badger s Followers From: djdettor@students.wisc.edu (Donald J. Dettor) Subject: prediction UW always seems to have at least one big win each year, and PSU isn't as good as OSU so this will be UW's big showing: UW: 31 PSU: 27 From bresinmp@adam.cs.uwec.edu Tue Sep 26 22:45:45 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 22:45:40 -0500; AA06499 Received: from adam.cs.uwec.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 22:45:33 -0500 Received: by adam.cs.uwec.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Aug95-1218PM) id AA32643; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:45:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:45:27 -0500 (CDT) From: MICHAEL BRESINA To: Brian Saunders Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: PSU In-Reply-To: <9509252018.AA21094@castor.che.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Sep 1995, Brian Saunders wrote: > Yeah - perhaps. Given the PLAY that was called, I'd have to agree with > this. But in general, I pretty much agree with what Bill Conlan (the fat > guy on the "Sports Reporters") said. I am sick and tired of all this "run > up the score" whining. If the teams really didn't like it, they wouldn't > schedule powerhouses like Florida State. But you know - they still do. > Could $$$ have anything to do with it? :^) For that matter, why doesn't the losing team have the option to concede the game and end it early? It's ludicrous to require someone to continue to play, yet deliberately not play as well as they can. It'd mess up another lucrative business, but then the NC$$ isn't supposed to be protecting the interests of the gambling industry. +-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Michael Patrick Bresina | America's always had a problem | | bresinmp@adam.cs.uwec.edu | with illegal aliens. Ask any Indian. | +-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+ From babalola@students.wisc.edu Tue Sep 26 23:34:37 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 23:34:35 -0500; AA06953 Received: from students.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 26 Sep 95 23:34:34 -0500 Received: from [144.92.96.58] by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id XAA49266; 8.6.9W/42; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:34:32 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:34:36 -0300 To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: babalola@students.wisc.edu (Jonathan O.A. Babalola) Subject: yet another prediction >So far we have (as of 5:30pm): > >42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) >35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) >45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) >44-10 PSU (Sippycable) >37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) >45-10 PSU (John Matelski) >34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) >31-30 UW (Carey) >35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) >35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) >24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) >47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) > >Any others? Yeah!! Penn State 30 Wisconsin 28 John Hall misses a 44 yarder from the right hash mark as the clock hits 0:00. (Man, I would love to be wrong on this!!) JB From bresinmp@adam.cs.uwec.edu Wed Sep 27 00:14:38 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 00:14:34 -0500; AA07145 Received: from adam.cs.uwec.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 00:14:31 -0500 Received: by adam.cs.uwec.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Aug95-1218PM) id AA00906; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:14:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:14:38 -0500 (CDT) From: MICHAEL BRESINA To: Bucky Badger's Followers Subject: Brian Rafalski Info (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anybody able to help? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:37:58 -0400 From: Chuck Cliff To: Multiple recipients of list HOCKEY-L Subject: Brian Rafalski Info I am trying to collect some info on Brian Rafalski's career at Wisconsin. If someone knows his career stats, honors, national teams he played on, etc. I would appreciate you passing them along to me. Thanks, Chuck Cliff HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to INFO-HOCKEY-L@MAINE.MAINE.EDU, The College Hockey Information List. From mpm2@psu.edu Wed Sep 27 07:55:44 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:55:42 -0500; AA14749 Received: from r02n08-fddi.cac.psu.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:55:40 -0500 Received: from BARAWK20 (barawk20.baranet.psu.edu [128.118.178.21]) by r02n08.cac.psu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA134246; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:55:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:55:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199509271255.IAA134246@r02n08.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: mpm2@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: "Martha P. Hanson" Subject: Invitation Cc: LarsHanson@aol.com Dear Wisconsin Fans, I've been enjoying your discussions tremendously. If you're coming to Happy Valley for the game our "Motley Crew" would love to meet you. We'll be tailgating before, and for awhile after, the game on the East side of the stadium (the side opposite the press box). We're in the second row of parking between sections EB & EC and there will be a blue van with Maryland plates. (We're a very eclectic group...) You could always just holler "Under the arm! PITT!" -- one of our favorite oldies -- and someone will surely find you! Hope to see you! PSU employee, Wisconsin Mom Martha P. Hanson Lead Applications Programmer/Analyst Office of Budget & Resource Analysis Penn State University 308 Old Main University Park, PA 16802 Phone: (814) 865-7641 E-mail: MPM2@PSU.EDU From toddt@Plexus.COM Wed Sep 27 08:26:18 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:26:16 -0500; AA14883 Received: from aspen.plexus.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:26:13 -0500 Received: from sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com (sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com [192.217.104.79]) by aspen.plexus.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA21918 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:26:12 -0500 Received: (from toddt@localhost) by sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA11591; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:26:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:26:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Thyes X-Sender: toddt@sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com To: Bucky Badger s Folowers Subject: Re: Prediction Survey In-Reply-To: <199509262305.SAA11200@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Any others? > ------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, after watching the SMU game in person. I predict a blow-out.. PSU 45 WIS 12 If SMU had a quarterback with any brains and that could throw consistantly, they could have scored points everytime. WIS was covering their wideouts with linebackers over half of the time. They need to change there def. schemes. I realize PSU won't have 5 wideouts, but Engram is equalivant to 2 1/2 of most teams. Engram 9 catches 175 yds 3 tds. I can only hope I'm wrong, but during and after last weeks game, I found my self complaining about the Badgers. (pretty bad after a 42-0 win) 1) Bevell has no arm strength. The throw to simmons over the middle in triple coverage was awful. 2) The Badger pass defense will give up almost 300 yds every game. Even teams that run 70% will pass 70% against the pack! I'll be watching Sat and hoping for a victory, but not expecting anything close. Todd From kilbe001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Wed Sep 27 11:38:20 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 11:38:18 -0500; AA15364 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 11:38:16 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 11:29:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:29:16 -0500 (CDT) From: S Michael Kilbey II Subject: Re: Prediction Survey To: Thomas Glaser Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers In-Reply-To: <199509262305.SAA11200@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Thomas Glaser wrote: > So far we have (as of 5:30pm): > > 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) > 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) > 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) > 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) > 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) > 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) > 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) > 31-30 UW (Carey) > 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) > 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) > 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) > 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) > > Any others? This is just begging for some wise-acre, and from the crowd my hand stands tall . . . I'll tell you Saturday night Thanks for wasting your time. Mike ps -- FWIW: Pat Richter was in the hospital last Saturday. I have no idea about his current status. As for the game, Badger ball control sets the tone for the day -- and a WISCO upset is in the making. Undaunted however, the currently email-less Mr. Sackett says PSU 35, WI 17. From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Wed Sep 27 15:40:14 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:40:11 -0500; AA16077 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:40:09 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA01292; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:40:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:40:06 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9509272040.AA01292@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Starting time of Minnesota game? Could anybody tell me the planned starting time of the Minnesota football game on November 11? Thanks. Brian From tlyttle@hawaii.edu Wed Sep 27 15:41:54 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:41:52 -0500; AA16084 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:41:47 -0500 Received: from uhunix2.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.7]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11690(10)>; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:40:39 -1000 Received: by uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <142454>; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:38:30 -1000 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:38:24 -1000 Sender: Terrence Lyttle From: Terrence Lyttle To: Bucky Badgers followers Subject: PSU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII PSU 35 UW 14 In any Wisconsin game this year, the outcome will depend on how much pressure the opponents can put on Bevell. When he has protection, he is competent enough to generate a fair amount of offense (but can he go deep any more?). Put a little pressure on him and he acts like a deer in the headlights -- that's when he throws those back-to-back interceptions like last year's Colorado game, that's when he starts fumbling those snaps from center, and that's when the Badgers go to pieces. I'm guessing (though hoping fervently otherwise) that PSU will put enough pressure to bring out Mr. Hyde. Anyway, they are tons better than in the late 60's, when I had to sit through the 19 game losing streak! SO GO BADGERS! Terry Lyttle (Class of 70) From Dixon_WK@macmail1.csg.mot.com Wed Sep 27 16:29:26 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 16:29:24 -0500; AA16250 Received: from motgate.mot.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 16:29:22 -0500 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id QAA04533 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:29:21 -0500 Received: from macmail1.csg.mot.com (MACMAIL1.csg.mot.com [144.188.185.20]) by pobox.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id QAA19999 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:28:37 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 27 Sep 1995 16:23:32 U From: "Dixon WK" Return-Receipt-To: "Dixon WK" Subject: RE: prediction To: "Bucky Badger's Followers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-MS 3.0.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; Name="Message Body" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK. I'll add my thoughts (no good at predicting numbers yet) to the bone = pile. My single thought is that hardly anyone gave the Detroit Lions a chance = in the eternal flaming pit against the San Francisco 49ers. Soooo... = there is a chance that it could happen. Go Bucky Go. Fly like the wind!!! Kenny the "D" __________________________________________________________________________= _____ From: djdettor@students.wisc.edu on Tue, Sep 26, 1995 8:50 PM Subject: prediction To: Bucky Badger s Followers UW always seems to have at least one big win each year, and PSU isn't as good as OSU so this will be UW's big showing: UW: 31 PSU: 27 From chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Wed Sep 27 17:16:23 1995 Received: from natasha.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:16:20 -0500; AA16332 From: chilimbi@natasha.cs.wisc.edu (Trishul Chilimbi) Message-Id: <9509272216.AA11659@natasha.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by natasha.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:16:19 -0500 Subject: UW/ PSU tix To: bucky@natasha.cs.wisc.edu Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:16:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 141 I'm looking for 1 ticket to the UW/ PSU game this weekend. Email me with a price if you're looking to sell your ticket. Thanks, -Trishul From johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Wed Sep 27 20:45:40 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 20:45:38 -0500; AA16769 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Sep 95 20:45:36 -0500 Received: by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA033332735; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:45:35 -0500 From: johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: <199509280145.AA033332735@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: Prediction Survey To: manuvir@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Cc: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <9509262332.AA24006@captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu> from "Manuvir Das" at Sep 26, 95 06:32:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 262 Wisconsin 21 PennState 17 John Tsau. Internet Address : johne@nwu.edu Real World Address : 375 Oak Trails #101, Des Plaines, IL 60016 Real World Phone Numbers : (708) 803-3904 [home] (708) 814-2275 [cellular] From dsandler@chaph.usc.edu Thu Sep 28 02:12:17 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 02:12:15 -0500; AA22392 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 02:12:13 -0500 Received: from mekab.usc.edu (dsandler@mekab.usc.edu [128.125.253.171]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id AAA01297; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:12:04 -0700 Received: (dsandler@localhost) by mekab.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id AAA29346; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:11:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:11:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sandler To: johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: Prediction Survey In-Reply-To: <199509280145.AA033332735@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please do not send me any more mail. I request to be taken off this list because i do not have the time to look at any of the mail sent to me. Thank you. Sincerely, David Sandler From lindeemb@uwec.edu Thu Sep 28 11:03:02 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:03:00 -0500; AA02091 Received: from mail01.uwec.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:02:58 -0500 Received: from [137.28.216.81] by mail01.uwec.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:03:23 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:02:21 -0200 To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: Michael Bruce Lindeen (Michael Lindeen) Subject: Re: Prediction Survey >On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Thomas Glaser wrote: > >> So far we have (as of 5:30pm): >> >> 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) >> 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) >> 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) >> 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) >> 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) >> 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) >> 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) >> 31-30 UW (Carey) >> 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) >> 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) >> 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) >> 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) >> >> Any others? Look for Colorado II. 52-10 PSU. From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Thu Sep 28 11:05:03 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:05:01 -0500; AA02149 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:05:12 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 Sep 95 11:08:46 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 28 Sep 95 11:08:37 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:08:34 GMT-5 Subject: Wisconsin v. PSU All-Time Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <176BE514791@amber.indstate.edu> Hello: I just got something off of r.s.f.c. that said that Wisconsin is one of only three teams who have played PSU more than once, that have a winning all-time record against the Lions. (Don't ask who the others are. I know they are Big Ten teams however - Michigan and OSU probably.) Wisconsin is 2-0 all time against PSU. Once in 1953 and once in 1971. (I think the 1971 victory resulted in the fans setting bon-fires along State Street!) That means Wisconsin will still hold the all time head-to-head record against PSU no matter what Saturday's result is! Jon *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Thu Sep 28 11:13:27 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:13:25 -0500; AA02401 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:13:17 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:13:33 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 Sep 95 11:17:07 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 28 Sep 95 11:16:44 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:16:41 GMT-5 Subject: Re: Prediction Survey Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <176E0F571CA@amber.indstate.edu> > >> 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) > >> 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) > >> 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) > >> 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) > >> 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) > >> 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) > >> 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) > >> 31-30 UW (Carey) > >> 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) > >> 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) > >> 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) > >> 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) > >> > >> Any others? Earlier I stated that I agreed with Brian, 42-21 PSU Jon *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Thu Sep 28 12:51:13 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:51:10 -0500; AA04396 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:51:08 -0500 Received: by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA007500661; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:51:01 -0500 From: johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: <199509281751.AA007500661@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: Prediction Survey To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu (Bucky Badger) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:51:01 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <176E0F571CA@amber.indstate.edu> from "Jonathan C. Enslin" at Sep 28, 95 11:16:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 741 > > >> 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) > > >> 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) > > >> 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) > > >> 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) > > >> 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) > > >> 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) > > >> 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) > > >> 31-30 UW (Carey) > > >> 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) > > >> 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) > > >> 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) > > >> 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) > > >> > > >> Any others? > > Earlier I stated that I agreed with Brian, 42-21 PSU > > Jon Yah, 21-17 UW I had said earlier. John Tsau. Internet Address : johne@nwu.edu Real World Address : 375 Oak Trails #101, Des Plaines, IL 60016 Real World Phone Numbers : (708) 803-3904 [home] (708) 814-2275 [cellular] From kilbe001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Thu Sep 28 14:06:43 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 14:06:39 -0500; AA07880 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 14:06:37 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:49:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:49:31 -0500 (CDT) From: S Michael Kilbey II Subject: Re: Prediction Survey Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers In-Reply-To: <199509281751.AA007500661@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 28 Sep 1995 johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu wrote: > > > >> 42-21 PSU (Brian Saunders) > > > >> 35-17 PSU (Tom Delworth) > > > >> 45-20 PSU (MCKINNEY) > > > >> 44-10 PSU (Sippycable) > > > >> 37-10 PSU (Tom Potter) > > > >> 45-10 PSU (John Matelski) > > > >> 34-32 UW (Tom Glaser) > > > >> 31-30 UW (Carey) > > > >> 35-28 UW (Jeremy Roe) > > > >> 35-27 UW (Steven J Emmeric) > > > >> 24-20 UW or 13-38 PSU (Gannon Holt) > > > >> 47-9 PSU (Rob Holmes) > > > >> > > > >> Any others? > > > > Earlier I stated that I agreed with Brian, 42-21 PSU > > > > Jon > > Yah, 21-17 UW I had said earlier. > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS OF A.D. RICHTER IS? if so, please post along with your PSU-WI prediction. Ok, skip the prediction. Thanks, Mike From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Thu Sep 28 16:14:41 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 16:14:39 -0500; AA10827 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 16:14:37 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA02408; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:14:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:14:36 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9509282114.AA02408@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu, kilbe001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Subject: Re: Prediction Survey > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS OF A.D. RICHTER IS? if > so, please post along with your PSU-WI prediction. Ok, skip the > prediction. Thanks, I believe they diagonosed it as a duodenal ulcer (beginning of the small intestine). He was OK, but they're holding him in the hospital for a little while. Pat stated that he wasn't looking forward to it. :^) There was also a quip about him not having anything recently that would cause an ulcer, with the Rose Bowl and all. Come on! Last year's football season was not smooth sailing, and you can't tell me that the Van Gundy fiasco and the women's BB coaching snafu didn't have him a little bit on edge. (though we all know ulcers are NOT caused by nerves or stomach acid - they are more likely the result of a type of bacteria, and the other factors just make them worse) Brian - not a doctor; doesn't play one on TV From Sippycable@aol.com Thu Sep 28 19:43:31 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 19:43:30 -0500; AA13772 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 19:43:28 -0500 Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13238; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:43:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:43:27 -0400 From: Sippycable@aol.com Message-Id: <950928204326_31991857@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: sjemmerich@enh.nist.gov, bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: PSU prediction >Barry always seems to win one against the odds - Wisconsin 35 >PSU 27. Barry isn't playing. The secondary is. From gholt@cmotor.com Thu Sep 28 20:25:32 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 20:25:30 -0500; AA13982 Received: from [199.4.94.234] by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 28 Sep 95 20:25:27 -0500 Received: from ([192.4.200.180]) by narya.cmotor.com with SMTP id AA17014 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:29:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:29:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199509281729.AA17014@narya.cmotor.com> X-Sender: gholt@cmotor.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: gholt@cmotor.com (Gannon Holt) Subject: RE: prediction X-Mailer: >OK. I'll add my thoughts (no good at predicting numbers yet) to the bone pile. > >My single thought is that hardly anyone gave the Detroit Lions a chance in the >eternal flaming pit against the San Francisco 49ers. Soooo... there is a >chance that it could happen. There is a big difference here though. The Lions have a decent secondary that didn't stop, but did contain the 49ers passing game. I don't think the RED secondary is that strong yet. Gman > >Go Bucky Go. Fly like the wind!!! > >Kenny the "D" > > From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Fri Sep 29 08:13:30 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:13:25 -0500; AA20387 Received: from indst.indstate.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:13:22 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:13:39 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 29 Sep 95 08:17:13 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.21); 29 Sep 95 08:16:49 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:16:40 GMT-5 Subject: Eatin' A Late-Night Badger Snack!!! Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <18BE1C178EA@amber.indstate.edu> Hey losers! I just want you to know that my Penn State Nittany Lions are going to crush your Badgers on Saturday night. Yes, there will be fresh Badger meat on the grill for a late night snack. You're QB can't throw, your secondary stinks, and your coach is on the take from the Mafia. The Lions rule! What Joe Pa did to Rutgers is nothing like what he will do to you. Knowing your secondary, you'll be lucky to limit us to FOUR touchdowns in the last five minutes. Prediction: Penn State 84 Wisconsin 6 Jon (P.S. - No, I have not changed sides. I'm just hopin' that the weauf gods think I'm a Penn State fan and exact their revenge on the Lions on Saturday. Yes, I'm so desperate I'm resorting to semi-pagan rituals.) *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Associate Director of Development Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi *********************************************************************** From slesgold@cas.org Fri Sep 29 08:43:52 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:43:50 -0500; AA20571 Received: from srv01s4.cas.org by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:43:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:43:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9509291343.AA18911@cas.org> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: UW-PSU From: slesgold@cas.org (Steve Lesgold @ ext. 3252, D21 3134B) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I hate predicting, but the pressure from Thomas Glaser is more than I can bear. I'll say UW-24 PSU-33 I sure hope I'm wrong (I usually am, so there's hope!) On what network is the game being televised? It's being shown at bar here in Columbus, OH called Gary's Place 1333 Worthington Center if any of you guys are from here. Expect a lot of WACCO people (Wis. Alumni Club of Central Ohio). Steve *************************************************** Steve Lesgold System Services Engineer CAS Internet steve.lesgold@cas.org *************************************************** From tweaver@escmail.orl.mmc.com Fri Sep 29 08:44:39 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:44:37 -0500; AA20582 Received: from sunny.orl.mmc.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:44:34 -0500 Received: from bowling.orl.mmc.com by sunny.orl.mmc.com (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA09342; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:44:30 EDT Received: by bowling.orl.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA17821; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:44:28 EDT Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:44:28 EDT From: tweaver@escmail.orl.mmc.com Message-Id: <9509291344.AA17821@bowling.orl.mmc.com> To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Good Signs? I'm not superstitious, but I did see a couple of good signs this week for the Badgers. First, I was watching "Ace Ventura, Pet Detective" on HBO and saw an appearance by former Badger Jeff Dellenbach. Second, Lee Corso predicted a PSU blowout. Third, I'm moving into a new place and can't get cable installed until next week, meaning I don't have handy access to the game. I was able to catch the Colorado and Stanford games (a loss and a tie), but couldn't see the SMU game (a win). Fourth, I heard from a PSU alum friend who didn't even mention the game, relieving me the need to embarrass myself with a prediction of a Badger victory. I don't think these signs leave any doubt about the outcome. TW From jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Fri Sep 29 08:50:31 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:50:28 -0500; AA20657 Received: from intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:50:26 -0500 Received: by intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA08828; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:50:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9509291350.AA08828@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v118.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.3) From: Jon Haveman Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:50:45 -0500 To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Tomorrow's game. Reply-To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu I know the game is being televised by ESPN, but what time? My blasted wife went and made plans for us tomorrow afternoon, so I have to set the VCR..... Thanks much - Jon From glaser@univbkstr.com Fri Sep 29 09:20:28 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:20:26 -0500; AA21187 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:20:24 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA28303 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:01:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:01:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199509291501.KAA28303@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Re: UW-PSU X-Mailer: >I hate predicting, but the pressure from Thomas Glaser is more than I >can bear. Do it man...Everyone is doing it... > >I'll say UW-24 PSU-33 > All right!!! >I sure hope I'm wrong (I usually am, so there's hope!) I don't think your wrong...After all, the ESPN analysts (Lee Corso) last night said: "The Penn State offense is going to pass and run all over and do anything they want to the Wisconsin Defense." So if they said it...It has to be true... ;-> >On what network is the game being televised? > ESPN 4:45pm CST Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From toddt@Plexus.COM Fri Sep 29 09:36:53 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:36:49 -0500; AA21381 Received: from aspen.plexus.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:36:44 -0500 Received: from sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com (sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com [192.217.104.79]) by aspen.plexus.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA22347 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:36:40 -0500 Received: (from toddt@localhost) by sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA17545; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:36:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:36:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Thyes X-Sender: toddt@sioux.pd.tgi.plexus.com To: Bucky Badger s Folowers Subject: Re: Tomorrow's game. In-Reply-To: <9509291350.AA08828@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ____________________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Jon Haveman wrote: > I know the game is being televised by ESPN, but > what time? My blasted wife went and made plans > for us tomorrow afternoon, so I have to set the > VCR..... > > Thanks much - Jon > 4:45 Central Time on ESPN... Enjoy Todd From glaser@univbkstr.com Fri Sep 29 13:16:37 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:16:35 -0500; AA25403 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:16:33 -0500 Received: from dickens.univbkstr.com (dickens.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.140]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA30458 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:57:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:57:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199509291857.NAA30458@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com> X-Sender: glaser@mrcoffee.univbkstr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: glaser@univbkstr.com (Thomas Glaser) Subject: Torian out X-Mailer: Reggie Torian will not be playing this weekend or perhaps for the rest of the season due to mononucleosis. Donald Hayes is expected to fill the spot in the three man rotation. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Glaser glaser@univbkstr.com University Book Store http://www.univbkstr.com/ 711 State Street (608) 257-3784 Madison, WI 53703 (800) 993-BOOK From TAG@bigdaddy.mcc.Virginia.EDU Fri Sep 29 13:28:43 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:28:41 -0500; AA25623 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:28:39 -0500 Received: from bigdaddy.mcc.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa09331; 29 Sep 95 14:28 EDT Received: from BIG_DADDY/MAILQ by anesthesia.mcc.virginia.edu (Mercury 1.21); 29 Sep 95 14:28:08 EST5EDT Received: from MAILQ by BIG_DADDY (Mercury 1.21); 29 Sep 95 14:27:56 EST5EDT From: "DR. THOMAS A. GETTELMAN" Organization: University of Virginia To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Not enough predictions yet... X-Confirm-Reading-To: "DR. THOMAS A. GETTELMAN" X-Pmrqc: 1 Return-Receipt-To: "DR. THOMAS A. GETTELMAN" Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <64CAF20159B@anesthesia.mcc.virginia.edu> Since everyone else is doing it.... UW 13 PSU 31 ....and hoping for something better than reality is likely to dish out to Bucky fans. Tom Gettelman UW '88, '93 tag@bigdaddy.mcc.virginia.edu From bnotto@students.wisc.edu Fri Sep 29 14:00:35 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:00:33 -0500; AA26275 Received: from wisc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:00:31 -0500 Received: by wisc.edu; id AA28221; 5.57/37; Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:05:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:05:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9509291905.AA28221@wisc.edu> X-Sender: bnotto@students.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Bucky Badger s followers From: bnotto@students.wisc.edu (Brent N. Otto) Subject: UW-PSU prediction X-Mailer: Here's my take on the game: Penn State 45, Wisconsin 24. Just a few added tidbits: 1. Bevell must be flawless in order for the Badgers to win. 2. The front seven must pressure Richardson. How many Badgers got their hands on Detmer four weeks ago? Penn State's O-line is even more highly regarded than Colorado's. 3. NO BLOCKED PUNTS...NO MUFFED PUNT RETURNS. 4. One other sidelight in defense of the Badgers...just remember that no one thought they would beat Michigan last year...they we're 3-3-1 coming off of a tie to Purdue and a loss to Minnesota. What happened? 31-19 Wisconsin. I don't think it's going to happen but there is always the chance. From Sippycable@aol.com Sat Sep 30 00:56:49 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 00:56:46 -0500; AA03848 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 00:56:45 -0500 Received: by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA03512; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:56:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:56:44 -0400 From: Sippycable@aol.com Message-Id: <950930015643_112965984@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: bnotto@students.wisc.edu, bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: UW-PSU prediction Alright, realistically and objectively, we have absolutely no shot tomorrow against what really is a superior Penn State team. But.... despite the fact that most of us, myself included, have been writing this off as a loss all week, we are still rooting for the Badgers. And in teh immortal words of Joe Panos, "Why not Wisconsin?" From danick@students.uiuc.edu Sat Sep 30 02:47:02 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 02:46:59 -0500; AA04220 Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 02:46:57 -0500 Received: (from danick@localhost) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) id CAA21420; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:46:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:46:45 -0500 (CDT) From: danick david joseph To: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: Eatin' A Late-Night Badger Snack!!! In-Reply-To: <18BE1C178EA@amber.indstate.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII goddamn right!!! woo!! woo!! they gonna give that ass a good thrashin' sorry, nothing against wis. it's just the fact that you're going to lose. On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Jonathan C. Enslin wrote: > Hey losers! > > I just want you to know that my Penn State Nittany Lions are going to > crush your Badgers on Saturday night. Yes, there will be fresh > Badger meat on the grill for a late night snack. You're QB can't throw, > your secondary stinks, and your coach is on the take from the Mafia. > > The Lions rule! What Joe Pa did to Rutgers is nothing like what he > will do to you. Knowing your secondary, you'll be lucky to limit us > to FOUR touchdowns in the last five minutes. > > Prediction: Penn State 84 Wisconsin 6 > > Jon > > (P.S. - No, I have not changed sides. I'm just hopin' that the weauf > gods think I'm a Penn State fan and exact their revenge on the Lions > on Saturday. Yes, I'm so desperate I'm resorting to semi-pagan > rituals.) > > *********************************************************************** > Jonathan C. Enslin > Associate Director of Development > Indiana State Univerity Telephone: (812) 237-7609 > Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 > > "Gentlemen, this is a football." - Vince Lombardi > *********************************************************************** > From jcharles@hawaii.edu Sat Sep 30 13:53:02 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 13:53:00 -0500; AA08556 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 13:52:57 -0500 Received: from uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.6]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11354(5)>; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 08:52:44 -1000 Received: by uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <184415>; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 08:52:34 -1000 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 08:52:21 -1000 From: John Arsad Charles To: Bucky list Subject: another prediction! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Out here in Hawaii we do things a little more slowly than you guys on the mainland, so I haven't gotten around to my no-fail forecast of the UW-PSU game. Ex-Madison East Purgolder Donald Hayes will score on a reverse in the second quarter, putting the Badgers ahead to stay. Final: UW 29 PSU 26 John C. East High class of '83 From bbstaple@students.wisc.edu Sat Sep 30 17:21:54 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 17:21:51 -0500; AA09380 Received: from [199.197.64.10] by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 17:21:49 -0500 Received: from F181-175.net.wisc.edu by doyle.madison.k12.wi.us (8.6.9/4.03) id RAA07307; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:11:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:11:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199509302211.RAA07307@doyle.madison.k12.wi.us> X-Sender: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu (Ben Stapleton) Subject: (R) Wisconsin - Penn State Quarter 1 Cc: heifem@mail.state.wi.us Another road game on the TV and I'm more than ready: just went to Riley's for a case of MGD, a couple of guys should be here for the kick-off and my roommate is making home-made pizza for half-time. If you're taping the game and don't want to know the score, don't read this. I can't write about every play, so there are lots of holes. Somebody said on the radio today that Barry has been grilling the Texas Tech coaching staff about how they were able to double-team both Freddie Scott and Bobby Engram and shut down PSU's offense. ESPN's Brad Nessler and Gary Danielson to do the game. Beaver Stadium is sold out - 96,000 - sunny and they-won't-say-how-many degrees. Badgers - own 20. McCullough nothing on first down up the middle. Passes to McCullough and Martin over the middle get us a first down. McCullough to the right gets 7, and Carl up the middle gets a first down. Danielson likes our offensive line. A swing out pass dropped, McCullough for 5, and on 3rd down, London over the middle to PSU 26. Lots of time for Bevell. Maybe we should just call him 1st down - McCullough gets 5 on first, 2 on 2nd and 3 on 3rd - all between the tackles. Brad Childress looks tortured in the press box. 1st down gets 6 on the right side with a seal by Wunsch. 3rd and 3 and Bevell's end zone pass to Simmons is just a little too high. Simmons shaken up - need a report on that, Mr. Adrian Karsten. Hall in to kick from 26 - it's good. Badgers 3, PSU 0. We scored first! We scored first! (Anybody remember that Michigan debacle?) PSU - own 24. Quite a bit of red in the stands in one of the end zones. 2nd down and Engram falls down catching a ball over the middle to the 40. Saleh flails at the ball with no luck - looks like hockey goalie Solper. Karsten is no fashion plate on the sidelines. Scott open on the right to Badger 46. Then end around for Engram with Saleh evading 3 blockers at Badger 38. 3rd and a foot and we're off-side anyway. 1st down at the 32, pass is tipped up by Monty and we can't come down with it. 2nd down and draw gets nothing. 3rd and 10 - stop must come here - Richardson's pass over the middle to Campbell, who evades us, leaves PSU with 4th and 2 feet. Conway's golf shot just a bit outsiiide, we're going nuts. Badgers - own 22. 1st down McCullough over the middle, nice hole over the right, for 13 yards. McCullough wide right for nothing, then swing out to right for 8. Pattern to the right here??? 3rd and 2 and London wide wide wide over the middle, in the open field, down to the 21. Mike says London is a Theatre and Drama major because he can start impersonating a receiver this year. First down to the right for nothing. Then Bevell rolls right, to Nyquist, long pass, TOUCHDOWN to the front right end zone!!! Halls kick is good! Badgers 10, PSU 0. I'm starting to tingle all over - maybe it's the beer. PSU - own 29. Play action on the touchdown pass went left, then Bevell went right. 1st down and Richardson has all kinds of time, throws it in front of Scott. End of First quarter, Badgers 10, PSU 0 From bbstaple@students.wisc.edu Sat Sep 30 18:06:20 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:06:18 -0500; AA09549 Received: from [199.197.64.10] by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:06:16 -0500 Received: from F181-175.net.wisc.edu by doyle.madison.k12.wi.us (8.6.9/4.03) id RAA07382; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:55:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:55:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199509302255.RAA07382@doyle.madison.k12.wi.us> X-Sender: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu (Ben Stapleton) Subject: (R) Wisconsin - PSU 2nd Quarter Start of 2nd Quarter - Badgers 10, PSU 0. PSU (con't) - 3rd down and Richardson has all day to the left, directs traffic, throws out of bounds. Badgers - own 37. They gave us only 1 1/2 yards to fair catch the ball, the rules say 2 and the ref actually threw the flag. First down up the middle for 8. I'm not even going to say who. 2nd down and London comes all the way accross the field for a first down catch - he's got more catches today than ever before, probably since he was in Pop Warner. Our new possession receiver. McCullough left for 2, up the middle for 1 leaves 3rd and 7 and McCullough catches it for 5. PSU - own 7. On 2nd down, Richardson can't find a wide-open Engram at the 40. 3rd and 5 and PSU's false start makes it 3rd and 10. Scott's wide open in front of 2 Badgers for a first down. Maniecki makes a nice stop on first down. Then Archie catches a ball over the middle short and scampers for a first down. 2nd down and we blitz and Taylor bats down the pass. 3rd and 8 the pass is complete to the right sideline to Jurevicius. Thank God for this roster. Jurevicius - a $50 name. 2nd down and Milne catches a short pass and is immediately thrown down - nice play, red. 3rd down and the same buttonhook to Jurevicius works for a 1st in front of Weems. Fake to Archie on the play-action, then over the middle to him for 9. Saleh sacks Richardson for 5 yards, then 6-man blitz gets Richardson sacked again. Yes! Badgers - own 9 - 6:23 to go to halftime. McCullough, after 7 on 2nd down, has 63 yards. 3rd down and London crosses under Simmons, evades a PSU guy, and gets to the 24. McCullough catches a ball - wide open, for 5 - he always fals forward. Stecker loses 2 on 2nd down. 3rd and 7 and Bevell is 10 for 13. Draw play to Stecker and he gets 11 up the middle. The guys are starting to question Joe Paterno's sexuality. 3rd and 8 and another draw to Stecker gets 5. PSU calls TO with 1:44. PSU - own 32. 26-yd-punt, no roll for the Badgers. 2 plays and PSU is at their 45. PSU burns a TO at 1:08. Are those whales on Paterno's tie? What was he thinking this morning? By the way, we're still up 10-0. Scott for 13 to the right - wide open and out of bounds. Richardson blind sided in the back field, ball pops out off of tremendous hit, and PSU makes a couple of yards because it came right to the outlet reciever. PSU burns it's last TO. Scott gets the first out of bounds with :37 at Badgers' 30. Scott out of bounds after the incompletion on first down to the 25. 3rd and 4 and Richardson throws it out of bounds. 4th and 4 and Paterno goes - wide open for a first down at the 20, and he drops it. Woo-hoo! We're happy in "Happy Valley." Er, um, yeah. Half time - Badgers 10, PSU 0. Mike Tirico's tie is cool - looks like kids wearing sunglasses on a black background. Our defense had an incredible first half. I'm going nuts. From bbstaple@students.wisc.edu Sat Sep 30 18:55:21 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:55:19 -0500; AA09742 Received: from [199.197.64.10] by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:55:17 -0500 Received: from F181-175.net.wisc.edu by doyle.madison.k12.wi.us (8.6.9/4.03) id SAA06917; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 18:44:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 18:44:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199509302344.SAA06917@doyle.madison.k12.wi.us> X-Sender: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu (Ben Stapleton) Subject: (R) Wisconsin - Penn State 3rd Quarter Halftime - Badgers 10, Penn State 0. I keep pinching myself. FLASH: Craig James is actually Joe Theismann's secret love-child. You have to admit there is a resemblance. PSU - Own 20. PSU has 7 yards rushing on 1st down, 17 on 2nd down and 9 yards in the first half. What was Paterno emphasizing at half-time to his offense? Richardson passes to TE Olsommer in the flat, rips past Carter who tries to tackle him too high, and gets a first down. Nice open field tackle on 2nd down by Suttle. 3rd and 5 and TE Stephenson catches it, breaks a tackle and gets the first. 2nd down and the full back Witman goes for the first with a big hole. 3rd and 7 at the 8 and Carter blitzes and nails Richardson. Conway's kick is good. Badgers 10, PSU 3. Badgers - Own 35. 2 McCullough runs up the middle brings 3rd and 5 with Bevell's 12th completion (15 attempts) to London for 6 and the first down - excellent. 3rd and 3 and London drops Bevell's short pass over the middle. PSU - Own 9. 6:54 in the third quarter. A first down, despite a false start, is gained all on running. Pass in the left flat, run to the right gets another first down to PSU 34. Scott in the right flat for a first down at own 45. 3rd and 7 and Jurevicius drops it in the right flat. Badgers - Own 12. 1:57 to go. Mr. 1st down runs left for 2. Nyquist catches Bevell's naked bootleg pass, evades one, moves them back for a 3rd and 2. McCullough gets a first down for 82 yards total, then runs on first down for 2. Stu calls from Beaver Stadium - he can't believe Childress' first down calls. End of 3rd Quarter - Badgers 10, PSU 3. From bbstaple@students.wisc.edu Sat Sep 30 19:39:07 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 19:39:05 -0500; AA09941 Received: from [199.197.64.10] by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 19:39:02 -0500 Received: from F181-175.net.wisc.edu by doyle.madison.k12.wi.us (8.6.9/4.03) id TAA09810; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 19:28:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 19:28:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199510010028.TAA09810@doyle.madison.k12.wi.us> X-Sender: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu From: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu (Ben Stapleton) Subject: (R) Wisconsin - Penn State 4th Quarter Start 4th Quarter - Badgers 10, Penn State 3. Badgers (cont'd) London comes across the field again for another first down at Badgers 41. This is after Bevell scrambled for a first down. 2 McCullough runs leaves 3rd and 4 and I'm so buzzed I'm getting into the Funyuns. What is a Funyun? They're round, they give you bad breath and they should come with a side bag of Imodium AD. We burn a TO. Bevell looks a little shaken. Then he runs right and passes to the TE Nyquish who was in motion for a first down. McCullough goes for 5, then limps off the field. Stecker goes for 3 on the right side, and Bevell passes to Sondrup for the first down. Karsten says McCullough got his foot stepped on and will be back. 2nd and 6 and Bevell throws it up from the 30 for Simmons at the goal line, he leaps - TOUCHDOWN!!!!! Hall kicks PAT. Badgers 17, Penn State 3. Badgers are +7 since the Funyuns. PSU - Own 20. 2nd down and end around for Campbell gets 14 - could well have been more without Weems' great tackle. After 1st down completion, 8:43 to go and counting. Penn State rolling on short passes, gets a first down. 2nd down and 10 at PSU 47 and Scott breaks tackles 3 after the catch and gets 15 yards. Monty limps off the field with help. Pass to TE Olsommer for a first down at the Badgers' 17. Penn State rolling with short passes in the flat to everybody with 6:00 to go. It's not the yardage allowed, it's the time off the clock. 3rd and 3 at the 10 and they run to the 5. 1st down run gets nothing and stays in bounds. 2nd down, corner route in the end zone, and Suttle knocks it away - great coverage. 3rd down at the 5 and Richardson throws it out of the end zone. Saleh crushes Richardson after the throw. 4th down and an easy throw to Engram who is wide open at the goal line for the TD. PAT and they go for 2 and come up 1 foot short. Were they forced to do so? No - designed 2pt conversion that went short. Badgers 17, PSU 9. I'm sorry if I'm not getting everything - everybody around me is going caaarrraaazzzeeeee around me and calling me a geek for doing this during the game. Badgers - Own 25. Stecker runs for 2 on first down and PSU stops the clock with 3:58 to go. Stecker runs for 7 and PSU stops the clock - 3:45. 3rd down and the pass loses yardage - in bounds - and PSU calls their 3rd TO with 3:37 to go. PSU - Own 47, after the interference on the fair-catch opportunity. Pass to flat gets 5. Pass to Engram over the middle is dropped. 3rd and 5 and pass is complete. Richardson is 31 for 44. Scott catches it for 5. 3:00 left at Badgers 35. Maniecki sacks him for a loss of 8. Pass for 6 in the right flat. 4th and 7, get your keys out, and the pass falls incomplete!!!! Saleh forces Richardson to pass too far in front of TE Olsommer. Badgers - Own 30something. Badgers running out the clock. Run, run, :55, :54, 3rd down and 5, run, run, :36. The announcers are already talking about State Street tonight. The clock runs out Badgers 17, Penn State 9. It's the Funyuns!!!!!! Ben Stapleton bbstaple@students.wisc.edu From johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Sat Sep 30 23:29:50 1995 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu by sea.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 23:29:46 -0500; AA10722 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by lucy.cs.wisc.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 95 23:29:44 -0500 Received: by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA182411778; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 23:29:39 -0500 From: johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: <199510010429.AA182411778@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: (R) Wisconsin - Penn State 4th Quarter To: bbstaple@students.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 23:29:38 -2900 (CDT) Cc: bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <199510010028.TAA09810@doyle.madison.k12.wi.us> from "Ben Stapleton" at Sep 30, 95 07:28:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2080 First and foremost: THANK YOU FOR THE DESCRIPTIONS! Even though I was watching the game, there are enough that I miss. Let me say first, that this was the most solid victory I have seen from Wisconsin over a ranked opponent to this point. In the past, during the tough games, Wisconsin held on with rugged rushing. Bevell rarely passed during these games, because I doubt they could do it with consistent success. Today, Bevell showed a LOT of leadership. The tight ends, the wide receivers, the rushing backfield all stepped up. Bevell had only a couple of poor passes and a lot of great ones. McCullough proved that he could grind it out a few yards at a time. He made the yardage when he had to. Man, can we put him up for Heismann next year? Stecker, stopped a few times here and there, found creases and is proving he is going to be a great back too. London. What can I say about him. Is everyone just paying so much attention to Simmons? London, has developed so well this year. I am very impressed with his play so far. I think people really underestimate his speed and solid (not flashy) hands. The secondary, while it still has a ways to go, played a decent game against an excellent receiving corp. What REALLY helped them was all the pressure they put on Richardson! Wow!! Tarek Saleh was monstrous, outspeeding his opponent time after time. And we actually blitzed this game!! They spent a lot of effort preventing the big plays and giving up the short sideline yardage. Monty played well but he went out with an injury! Anyone know is he okay?? I kept waiting for the collapse, but it never happened! I am really glad we have this week off though. We need to heal. The tight ends, Simmons, EVERYONE, even Hall played well. I think Hall is going to develop just fine. On WISCONSIN!! A GREAT GAME!! John Tsau. Internet Address : johne@nwu.edu Real World Address : 375 Oak Trails #101, Des Plaines, IL 60016 Real World Phone Numbers : (708) 803-3904 [home] (708) 814-2275 [cellular]