From BadgerRoy@aol.com Sun Apr 28 00:22:25 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA25645 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:22:19 -0500 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA13273 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:22:16 -0500 From: BadgerRoy@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA08614; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:22:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: <960428012211_384699895@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: Bucky@cs.wisc.edu cc: Gopackrsgo@aol.com, BFeiges@interaccess.com Subject: Spring Game Report QUARTERBACKS SHINE, MCCULLOUGH FAILS The spring game answered a few questions for the team, but provided much doubt for certain areas of concern. After spotting the White team a pre-game 24-0 lead, the Cardinal stormed back to put up several impressive drives and win the game going away. The Cardinal moved the ball almost at will during the first three drives, but scored only once--on a Mike Samuel option run. The other two drives stalled inside the 10 when Carl McCullough failed to select the correct holes and was stuffed on at least 3-4 runs (including one by a 180 lb third string DB). In fact McCullough was probably only the 4th best tailback on the field on this day. The star was Charles Williams who played on both the White and the Cardinal team and made several impressive runs in the 4th quarter. Jean Jourdain and Royce Roberson also made some impressive runs. In fact the only tailback that didnt outplay McCullough was Aaron Stecker who was sidelined with an injury. McCullough made a couple nice runs early but missed a lot of holes and was extremely slow to get to the line of scrimmage (a fact which became even more clear with Charles Williams' quick hits late in the game). McCullough did not appear to want to seize control of the tailback slot even though it was his for the taking. His poor effort stirred up the generally quiet crowd and caused many disgruntled fans to say "I can hardly wait for Dayne." Interestingly, the Cardinal trailed 24-7 after the first half, but once McCullough was out of the game, the Cardinal proceeded to put together several nice plays, and scoring drives. At QB, Mike Samuel threw the ball well and with noticeably more zip than any Bevell pass. This should open up the field for the run. Samuel only played the first half and led some nice drives which stalled inside the 10 (see McCullough mistakes above). He did make a couple of poor reads which were thrown into heavy coverage but none were intercepted. Marcus White and Mark Zanders alternated the first half for the White and the second half for the Cardinal. Zanders through the ball well most of the time and White made a few nice runs (including a 20 yd TD) and some nice passes (a 40 yd bomb). He did not look as comfortable in a drop back roll but he gives the team another dimension. That being said, almost all the option attempts were BIG failures and many pitches were dropped. Let's hope we dont need to use the option too much. The OL played OK but it is tough to judge against this competition. At WR, Donald Hayes look excellent, Simmons made a few nice catches but look a little lazy at times. The other receivers made some nice plays--Demetrius Brown, Chris Downs, and Travis (Doogie) Hauser. On special teams, Hall kicked off well and made all the kicks he attempted. The punting was ok and the long snaps seemed better than last year. Jason Suttle looked good returning punts. Only one kickoff (maybe two) were returned because Hall kicked everything out of the endzone. It is hard to judge whether our special teams were improved or only looked good because they were playing each other. On Defense, the Cardinal team did not allow any points with the first team D playing most of the game. Saleh made some great plays but the secondary was beaten consistently in the second half by the 4th and 5th string QB's Dirk Stranger and Ben McCormick (Where was that pressure Defense we heard about earlier--hopefully they were just trying not to give away their strategies). A solid but unspectacular effort from the Cardinal D. On the White D, Jamie Spielman and Mark Davis (both LB's) had their names called often. A few players appeared to get injured but hopefully none were serious. Ahmad Merritt, Stecker, Waerig and Pete Monty did not play. Coming out of this game it seems clear that Samuel will be the starting QB, but it is not clear who will be number 2 and that should create good competition all year. RB is in complete disarray as a result of McCullough's poor effort and failure to get the necessary yards and the spot will be wide open going to the fall. Charles Williams, Stecker and Ron Dayne will get the chances they need to compete for playing time. The OL and DL seem set. The 3rd WR spot seems open with Demetrius Brown making a strong bid from his effort in this game. The secondary is an area of concern. LB seem okay and will be strong if Monty recovers. Special teams will remain a question mark until they can prove they can perform in game conditions. Was anyone else there?? What did other people think of the game and the lineup battles?? From morse@globaldialog.com Sun Apr 28 11:22:34 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA04727 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:22:29 -0500 Received: from msn.globaldialog.com (msn.globaldialog.com [156.46.122.10]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA15954 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:22:27 -0500 Received: from s09a.globaldialog.com (s09a.globaldialog.com [156.46.122.73]) by msn.globaldialog.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA17195 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:22:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:22:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604281622.LAA17195@msn.globaldialog.com> X-Sender: morse@pop.globaldialog.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: morse@globaldialog.com (Bob Morse) Subject: Re: Spring Game Report >QUARTERBACKS SHINE, MCCULLOUGH FAILS > ... Thanks for a good report. I didn't see the game, and haven't even seen the morning paper yet, but channel 15 is supposed to broadcast a replay this afternoon. >McCullough ... missed a lot of >holes and was extremely slow to get to the line of scrimmage .... Man, that sounds familiar. I seem to remember thinking that a lot last year. Good to hear that Charles Williams is making strides, though. He or Stecker apparently would be fine as the "darter" half of the RB tandem, but we still need that punishing bruiser to pound the interior line a la Moss. Let's hope McC can get his act together, or that Dayne is a quick study. ======================================================================== Bob Morse : morse@globaldialog.com : Badger SoftWerks : Mt. Horeb, Wisc. ======================================================================== Badger SoftWerks: http://www.globaldialog.com/~morse/bsw.htm InfoJunkies Anonymous: http://www.globaldialog.com/~morse/ija.htm From mcgaff@chem.nwu.edu Sun Apr 28 12:36:15 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA05061 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:36:07 -0500 Received: from mercury.chem.nwu.edu (mercury.chem.nwu.edu [129.105.14.2]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16445 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:36:05 -0500 Received: by mercury.chem.nwu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14662; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:39:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:39:45 -0500 From: mcgaff@chem.nwu.edu (Robert William McGaff) Message-Id: <9604281739.AA14662@mercury.chem.nwu.edu> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Hockey recruits Hey everyone- sorry to break up the football talk with hockey stuff but I was wondering if anyone in Madison has heard anything about the 2 hockey recruits that were mentioned BRIEFLY in Badger Plus. I know they got a winger from Michigan and a goaltender from Sweeden, but they didn't describe the guys at all. I think potentially next year could be a great one in hockey, football and Basketball if the hockey team can find a couple of scorers, the football team plays their kind of (physical) football and Bennett's guys continue to improve. Rob From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Sun Apr 28 17:58:29 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA07197 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:58:22 -0500 Received: from castor.che.wisc.edu (castor.che.wisc.edu [128.104.170.35]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18961 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:58:21 -0500 Received: by castor.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Feb95-0139PM) id AA10717; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:58:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:58:20 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9604282258.AA10717@castor.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Donald Hayes Though Tony Simmons seems to garner most of the attention for the Wisconsin receivers, it seems to me that Donald Hayes may be the best receiver on the team. The report of the spring game indicated that, and a few of the pro scouts rate Hayes as one of the top receivers in his class. I'm going to be somewhat abrupt in my praise because I don't want to hex him, but I agree with Barry Alvarez - this guy has the opportunity to do something special. At any rate, I don't think we can consider the receivers on the team as a weakness. :^) Brian From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Sun Apr 28 21:02:14 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA08074 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:02:06 -0500 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu (io.che.wisc.edu [128.104.170.39]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA20468 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:02:00 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA07353; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:01:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:01:59 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9604290201.AA07353@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: More Finley praise Not that Michael Finley hasn't gotten enough praise around the NBA for his excellent rookie season, but now it really is apparent how important he is. The commentators are all talking about his absence (due to an ankle sprain) as a major reason for the Suns not doing that well in the playoffs. The way they were going on today, it sounded like he was the most important person on the team, in terms of defense. Of course, every time I go on about Finley, I get ticked off that Wisconsin had a losing record his senior year. Sure, he didn't have a lot of help, but nonetheless... Brian From manuvir@cs.wisc.edu Sun Apr 28 21:56:06 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA08265 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:56:00 -0500 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu (captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.75.11]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA20881; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:55:58 -0500 Received: from captn-hook (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA03641; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:55:57 -0500 Sender: manuvir@cs.wisc.edu Message-ID: <31842FBC.52BFA1D7@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:55:56 -0500 From: Manuvir Das Organization: Computer Sciences Dept, UW Madison X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu CC: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: Re: More Finley praise References: <9604290201.AA07353@io.che.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > they were going on today, it sounded like he was the most important person > on the team, in terms of defense. Well, anyone who has watched the Suns regularly this year knows this without the help of some expert opinion. He's the only guy on the team who is quick enough to defend guards and a good enough post defender to come out looking good against players like Sean Elliot of the Spurs, Pippen, when they're isolated against him. Plus, unlike most of the Suns, he plays hard all the time and follows his man through screens, cuts etc diligently. It doesn't hurt that Danny Ainge has done a lot of Suns games this year, and he thinks a lot of Finley. - Manuvir From slesgold@cas.org Mon Apr 29 07:31:09 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA15084 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:31:00 -0500 Received: from srv01s4.cas.org (srv01s4.cas.org [134.243.50.9]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA24873 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:30:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:30:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9604291230.AA00081@cas.org> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: RE: "old barn" From: slesgold@cas.org (Steve Lesgold @ ext. 3252, D21 3134B) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII >Unfortunately, I can't remember whether he was good govenor or not! > With apologies for any undue bias, the answer is "not". Steve From mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu Mon Apr 29 07:49:37 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA15150 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:49:31 -0500 Received: from eng.clemson.edu (eng.clemson.edu [130.127.200.5]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA25012 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:49:29 -0500 Received: from [130.127.222.110] (mkilbey_mac) by eng.clemson.edu (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA21397; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:46:33 -0400 X-Sender: mkilbey@ces.clemson.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:49:26 -0400 To: saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu From: mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu (Michael Kilbey) Subject: A reply: List user poll Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers At 7:07 PM 4/27/96, Brian Saunders wrote: >The latest response to my attempts at list control indicate to me that >there are a large number of people here unhappy with my administration of >the list. So, with that in mind, I'm asking people to send me PERSONAL >mail indicating if they want me to continue as list administrator, or to >leave it to Manuvir - meaning it will be in auto-pilot. Bucky folks, This subject turns up about once a year, and while people might debate WHO that user is or WHAT their style is, I think that the bottom line is that we can chose from whoever steps up or fold the tent. This list is just about my only source of Badger news, and however one might assign 'good' and 'bad', the former far outweighs the latter. I'll deal with the bumps in the road, even ones I help create. Mike -------------------------------------------- S. Michael Kilbey II Assistant Professor Department of Chemical Engineering Clemson University Clemson, SC 29634-0909 phone: (864)656-5423 fax: (864)656-0784 From LUCIANI@printing.uwex.edu Mon Apr 29 08:51:13 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA15708 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:51:08 -0500 Received: from shaggy.uwex.edu (shaggy.uwex.edu [144.92.105.17]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA25688 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:51:07 -0500 Received: from by shaggy.uwex.edu; id AC03377; 4.1/42; Mon, 29 Apr 96 08:51:12 CDT Received: From SCOOBY/WORKQUEUE by charon1.uwex.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.960429085007.2112; 29 Apr 96 08:51:05 +600 Message-Id: From: "Dave Luciani, CE Video" Organization: University of Wisconsin-Extension To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:48:48 CST Subject: McCullough's performance Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) I sat among some of the most optimistic Badger fans at the Camp on Saturday afternoon and none of them had much good to say about Carl McCullough's performance. He was largely unimpressive in the Spring game. I know the guy racked up more than 1,000 yards last year, but he still seems to be a plodder who misses a good number of holes and takes more of a punishment that he delievers at the point of contact. Thank the heavens for impressive performances by Jean Jourdian and Charles Williams.....maybe increased competition with the inclusion of Ron Dayne in the fall will "inspire" McCullough into the greatness that can be his potential. As far as the quarterback situation is concerned.......I think Marcus White is going to be something special. I happened to be standing at the fence behind the endzone when he scored his touchdown.....man, that guy has moves and nice acceleration!! I still have fears that are d-line is going to have major troubles stopping the run in the conference season. Oh well, it's early..............still a few months for John Hall to figure out what he's been put on this planet for. - Dave "Like a Queen Bee's honey, you're as sweet as can be. I'm the King baby, buzz with me..." --Stevie Ray Vaughan From mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu Mon Apr 29 11:07:22 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA17717 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:07:16 -0500 Received: from eng.clemson.edu (eng.clemson.edu [130.127.200.5]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28095 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:07:15 -0500 Received: from [130.127.222.110] (mkilbey_mac) by eng.clemson.edu (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA05321; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:04:09 -0400 X-Sender: mkilbey@ces.clemson.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:07:02 -0400 To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu (Michael Kilbey) Subject: FB schedule Bucky Faithful, I seem to recall a 1996 Football Schedule being posted some time ago. If anybody has that handy and would post it to me, I'd appreciate it. Let's see, this year the dreaded gopher comes to Camp Randall right? That's one game I really want to see -- especially after last year's fun. Who is the soup d'jour for Homecoming? Thanks, Mike From jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Mon Apr 29 11:32:09 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18085 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:32:03 -0500 Received: from intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu [128.210.13.30]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28608 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:32:02 -0500 Received: by intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA05679; Mon, 29 Apr 96 11:37:21 -0500 Message-Id: <9604291637.AA05679@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v118.3) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.3) From: Jon Haveman Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 11:37:16 -0500 To: bucky@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Subject: Re: FB schedule Reply-To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu References: On Mon, 29 Apr 1996 RE: "FB schedule" mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu (Michael Kilbey) wrote: > Bucky Faithful, > > I seem to recall a 1996 Football Schedule being posted some time ago. If > anybody has that handy and would post it to me, I'd appreciate it. Sept. 7 Eastern Michigan (HOF Day) Sept. 14 at UNLV Sept. 21 Stanford (Band Day) Sept. 28 PSU (Parent's Day) Oct. 12 at tOSU Oct. 19 Northwestern (Homecoming) Oh no! Oct. 26 at Michigan State Nov. 2 Purdue (Badger Blast) Nov. 9 MInesota (W Club Day) Nov. 16 at Iowa Nov. 23 at Illinois Nov. 30 at Hawaii > Let's see, this year the dreaded gopher comes to Camp Randall right? > That's one game I really want to see -- especially after last year's fun. > Who is the soup d'jour for Homecoming? Northwestern. Oh my. Cheers - Jon --- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home) From manuvir@cs.wisc.edu Mon Apr 29 11:50:10 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18343 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:50:02 -0500 Received: from captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu (captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.75.11]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA28932; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:50:00 -0500 Received: from captn-hook (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by captn-hook.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA04158; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:49:59 -0500 Sender: manuvir@cs.wisc.edu Message-ID: <3184F337.62319AC4@cs.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:49:59 -0500 From: Manuvir Das Organization: Computer Sciences Dept, UW Madison X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bucky Badger s Followers Subject: List Conduct References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let me just clarify, as the one who supposedly runs this list, that it has been decided in the past to allow all kinds of comments on the list. Just keep things related to Bucky, and avoid personal attacks. Brian has been good enough to do the admin. things for the last couple of months while I've been away/busy, and he's going to keep running things as long as he chooses. Meanwhile, receiving a few mails a day that you don't want to read or that you think are inappropriate for the list is a small price to pay for the use of the list and the freedom to express your opinions, I think. - Manuvir From mcgaff@chem.nwu.edu Mon Apr 29 13:37:54 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20474 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:37:49 -0500 Received: from mercury.chem.nwu.edu (mercury.chem.nwu.edu [129.105.14.2]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA01719 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:37:47 -0500 Received: by mercury.chem.nwu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25919; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:41:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:41:29 -0500 From: mcgaff@chem.nwu.edu (Robert William McGaff) Message-Id: <9604291841.AA25919@mercury.chem.nwu.edu> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Northwestern Hey Bucky fans- greetings from Wildcat land. I've held my tongue on this one because I work here, but seeing the "Oh no" next to Northwestern on the posted schedule, coupled by the fact that I am having a particularly bad day, has c caused me to post my belief that NORTHWESTERN IS BEATABLE!! Though, to read the Chicago Tribune and Daily Northwestern, you'd think their entire slate of opponents in 1996 has already forfeited. People around here are just a wee bit overconfident (and full of themselves) but I guess paying in excess of $24K per year in tuition gives you that right. Anyway: Autry is good, but not GREAT (Biakabatuka (sp), George, and I think even Darkins were all better runners last year. The O-line is mostly gone- and we know what effect that can have all too well. 3 of 4 starting db's are gone as well, and we know what effect THAT can have as well Steve Schnurr will not beat you if you stop Darnell Here's hoping the Badgers just hold on to the ball against the Wildcats- it would be very satisfying to me personally to beat these self-important bandwagon jumpers. I'm sure glad I'm moving back to Madison next year so I can witness the payback for last year's 35-0 debacle personally. later, Rob "Bucky Fan in Wildcat Land" McGaff PS- before you flame me, I know there were plenty of bandwagon jumpers in Madison in 1993-4, but IMHO, the effect has been more extreme here. They literally couldn't GIVE away tickets here before last season. From DEVENSLI@amber.indstate.edu Tue Apr 30 09:45:30 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA00752 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:45:12 -0500 Received: from INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (indst.indstate.edu [139.102.4.10]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA14067 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:22:37 -0500 Received: from amber.indstate.edu by INDST.INDSTATE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 30 Apr 96 08:22:46 EST Received: from AMBER/SpoolDir by amber.indstate.edu (Mercury 1.21); 30 Apr 96 08:24:28 GMT-5 Received: from SpoolDir by AMBER (Mercury 1.22 beta); 30 Apr 96 08:24:04 GMT-5 From: "Jonathan C. Enslin" Organization: Indiana State University To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:24:03 GMT-5 Subject: Re: Non-sports......who's web page was it? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <1F992536EC@amber.indstate.edu> Frankly, I think I speak for many when I say: "I don't care!!" I think this list has improved tremendously over the past year, and some of that credit needs to go to Brian. I urge him to stay involved and keep up the good work. Jon > Bucky subscribers, > I emailed Brian a much longer letter about this in private but some > things need to be addressed to the list. > > 1) Brian's letter should not have been put to the list, it should have been > in done in private email. > > 2) I did "lurk" for awhile before posting. Obviously one can not ask a > question to get an INTELLIGENT discussion going without getting someone who > does not have the tools for an intelligent discussion mad. > > 3) I asked Brian to unsubscribe me back in February. I save every piece of > email so I can show you if need-be that I unsubscribed contrary to Brian's > assertions that he bumped me. > > 4) I'll quote a part of my email to him: "Ya know, It's just SOOOOOOO > inconvenient for me to paste bucky@cs.wisc.edu in the To: and CC: fields a > few hundred times and click send." He can threaten me all he wants but I > can threaten back. Don't worry......I'm not going to do it unless he bumps > me for no reason. > > Now let me take this oppurtunity to apologize to the Bucky > subscribers for adding one more frivilous piece of email to your mailboxes. > If you need to talk to me about this please email me directly so that it > doesn't flood the list. Also, I think Brian has some growing up to do. Or > is it that he doesn't have anything better to do on a weekend then start > making threats? Thanks for your time! > > Jeff:-) > > > *********************************************************************** Jonathan C. Enslin Director of Corporate and Foundation Relations Indiana State University Telephone: (812) 237-7609 Terre Haute, IN 47809 FAX: (812) 237-7797 "As the moon rises he sits by his fire, Thinking about women and glasses of beer." -James Taylor *********************************************************************** From Dave_Neperud-CDN004@email.mot.com Tue Apr 30 11:07:36 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA03047 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:07:22 -0500 Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [129.188.136.20]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA04223 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:54:05 -0500 From: Dave_Neperud-CDN004@email.mot.com Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate2.mot.com (8.7.3/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id UAA19685 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:53:03 GMT Received: from ilbx.mot.com (ilbx.mot.com [129.188.137.185]) by pobox.mot.com (8.7.3/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id PAA11136 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:54:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ilbx.mot.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07530; Mon, 29 Apr 96 15:54:01 -0500 Received: by email.mot.com via Worldtalk with X400 (3.0.4/1.64) id WT00723.525; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:53:59 CDT Date: 29 Apr 96 14:50:13 -0500 To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Donny Eicher Message-Id: <"Macintosh */PRMD=MOT/ADMD=MOT/C=US/"@MHS> I heard a report that LB Donny Eicher hurt his knee in the spring game and will miss next season. Can anybody confirm this? If so,it's too bad. From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Tue Apr 30 11:10:56 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA03206 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:10:39 -0500 Received: from castor.che.wisc.edu (castor.che.wisc.edu [128.104.170.35]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03015 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:41:59 -0500 Received: by castor.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Feb95-0139PM) id AA11953; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:41:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:41:58 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9604291941.AA11953@castor.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Poll results Nobody wants me to drop what I've been doing, so I won't. Though I kept people updated while all of this was going on, I thought I'd recap for you: 1. Over a year ago, I gave the list to Manuvir, and it was moved to the Computer Science machines (with a supposedly user-friendly list management system :^). He left gave me list owner privs, so I could help out the people that were still asking me, and I could take care of any problems. 2. I asked Manuvir to drop me from the list owner category, because I was getting a little too much mail, and didn't want to deal with it. 3. Manuvir left the country at the beginning of the year, for a few months. I had forgotten to ask him to renew my admin privs, so I had to jump through a few hoops when it became necessary to boot a bad actor after a month of no control. 4. Manuvir came back, but had a lot to do and said I might as well help with some of the administration stuff, so I kept my privs. The only thing that would happen if I dropped those privs again is that you'd probably have to wait a bit longer if you asked for help. Also, Manuvir might not be as quick to react to somebody causing trouble. So, it would be more of an auto-pilot thing, but it wouldn't be completely control-free, either. I just felt that after the last fiasco that some people weren't happy with the way I was handling things. I shouldn't admonish people on the list, no matter what the circumstances, so for that I admit my mistake. If a significant number of people start to cause trouble, participate in a thread which is getting way away from the point of the list, etc., then I have no alternative but to respond to the list. However, I tend to overreact too quickly to what I perceive as potential trouble, and I think it only makes things worse 90% of the time. I'll TRY not to do that in the future. A few others have complained about my style in general. That is more of a personal issue, and not an issue of how I handle the list (though these things can overlap at times). All I can say is that if you feel I've done something that indicates personal disrespect (rather than a simple argument in the course of discussion, which is all part of a list), please point it out and I'll do the appropriate thing (bend over for a spanking, put myself in a pillory, etc.). I can assure you that this is a problem I have on every forum in which I participate, as well as the way I occasionally interact with people in drinking establishments, and nothing personal is meant by it. Brian From johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Tue Apr 30 11:11:02 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA03209 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:10:43 -0500 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu (casbah.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.52]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA02517 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:41 -0500 From: johne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Received: by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (1.40.112.4/20.4) id AA287495634; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199604291920.AA287495634@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: Northwestern To: mcgaff@chem.nwu.edu Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: bucky@cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <9604291841.AA25919@mercury.chem.nwu.edu> from "Robert William McGaff" at Apr 29, 96 01:41:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2791 > Hey Bucky fans- greetings from Wildcat land. I've held my tongue on this one > because I work here, but seeing the "Oh no" next to Northwestern on the posted > schedule, coupled by the fact that I am having a particularly bad day, has c > caused me to post my belief that > > NORTHWESTERN IS BEATABLE!! Though, to read the Chicago Tribune and Daily > Northwestern, you'd think their entire slate of opponents in 1996 has already > forfeited. People around here are just a wee bit overconfident (and full of > themselves) but I guess paying in excess of $24K per year in tuition gives > you that right. Anyway: > > Autry is good, but not GREAT (Biakabatuka (sp), George, and I think even > Darkins were all better runners last year. > > The O-line is mostly gone- and we know what effect that can have all too well. > > 3 of 4 starting db's are gone as well, and we know what effect THAT can have > as well > > Steve Schnurr will not beat you if you stop Darnell > > Here's hoping the Badgers just hold on to the ball against the Wildcats- > it would be very satisfying to me personally to beat these self-important > bandwagon jumpers. I'm sure glad I'm moving back to Madison next year so > I can witness the payback for last year's 35-0 debacle personally. > > later, > Rob "Bucky Fan in Wildcat Land" McGaff > > PS- before you flame me, I know there were plenty of bandwagon jumpers > in Madison in 1993-4, but IMHO, the effect has been more extreme here. > They literally couldn't GIVE away tickets here before last season. I don't think anyone is saying Northwestern is unbeatable... but you have to admit, they have been a big thorn in our sides. They beat us often enough and usually give us a run for our money in the first half. Barnett is a decent coach, and unlike Alvarez (and I hate to say this), he is very willing to change the gameplan to fit the teams and the situation. Shnurr is now an experienced QB, and that gives Barnett the option to open up his offense... which it appears he is willing to do from spring reports. They had almost twice as many passing plays as running plays in the spring game. (Of course, on the other side, I would argue that running a passing team when you have new DB's gives the other team opportunity to change the tide quickly... interception, pass, TD... with almost no time on the clock used up). I still put my money on Wisconsin though. The talent runs deeper, the stadium is home, and the memories still linger. Okay, not enough sleep... I'm babbling. John Tsau. Wisconsin alum. Internet Address : johne@nwu.edu Real World Address : 375 Oak Trails #101, Des Plaines, IL 60016 Real World Phone Numbers : (847) 297-5160 [home] (708) 814-2275 [cellular] From Chuck_Sackett@dgii.com Tue Apr 30 11:58:46 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA05510 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:58:39 -0500 Received: from msp-mail.dgii.com (msp-mail-n8.dgii.com [199.86.8.192]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18130 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:58:37 -0500 Received: from msp-ln01.dgii.com by msp-mail.dgii.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA09269; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:58:39 -0500 Received: by msp-ln01.dgii.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/1.0) id AA0426; Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:57:46 -0700 Message-Id: <9604301857.AA0426@msp-ln01.dgii.com> Received: from DGII with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id E29F48891FC892738625631B00761EA9; Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:57:46 To: bucky From: Chuck J Sackett/Minneapolis/US/DGII Date: 29 Apr 96 16:32:13 EDT Subject: Re: FB schedule Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Mike Kilbey said: >I seem to recall a 1996 Football Schedule being posted some time ago. If >anybody has that handy and would post it to me, I'd appreciate it. >Let's see, this year the dreaded gopher comes to Camp Randall right? I'm not nearly as concerned about Minnesota as I am UNLV. I think the losses to MN were a mental thing and that's basically by the wayside. Routes by the Cardinal & White ought to become rather commonplace in the "Border Battle" from now on. From Mark.Rudolph@infores.com Tue Apr 30 12:55:00 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07144 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:54:53 -0500 Received: from postmaster.infores.com ([170.118.154.4]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA19435 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:54:43 -0500 Received: from boffin.infores.com (ns.infores.com [170.118.154.2]) by postmaster.infores.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA10592 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:55:53 -0500 Received: from ccMail by boffin.infores.com (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 186707b0; Tue, 30 Apr 96 12:56:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:53:12 -0700 Message-ID: <186707b0@infores.com> From: Mark.Rudolph@infores.com (Mark Rudolph) Subject: Re: Donny Eicher To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I heard a report that LB Donny Eicher hurt his knee in the spring game and will miss next season. Can anybody confirm this? If so,it's too bad. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Madison television stations, after the game, reported that he will miss the entire season. From saunders@castor.che.wisc.edu Tue Apr 30 12:56:22 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07187 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:56:11 -0500 Received: from io.che.wisc.edu (io.che.wisc.edu [128.104.170.39]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19476 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:56:09 -0500 Received: by io.che.wisc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jun95-0428PM) id AA09114; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:56:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:56:08 -0500 From: Brian Saunders Message-Id: <9604301756.AA09114@io.che.wisc.edu> To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Poll results, Donny Eichner Sorry about the double-post on my "poll results" folks - it wasn't intended. I sure hope I don't have to read that stupid stuff of mine over and over and over again. :^) Now, to answer a question: > I heard a report that LB Donny Eicher hurt his knee in the spring game and > will miss next season. Can anybody confirm this? If so,it's too bad. This is what coach Barry said, so it probably is the case. I know in football that they often err on the side of conservatism w.r.t injuries, especially when there is a red-shirt year available, but it's hard to say how bad the knee injury is. Brian From tglaser@univbkstr.com Tue Apr 30 13:02:32 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA07306 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:02:13 -0500 Received: from mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (mrcoffee.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.70]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA19606 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:02:10 -0500 Received: from mail.univbkstr.com (mail.univbkstr.com [199.183.133.72]) by mrcoffee.univbkstr.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA24732 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:27:55 -0500 Received: by mail.univbkstr.com with Microsoft Mail id <31867491@mail.univbkstr.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 96 13:14:09 PDT From: Tom Glaser To: "'bucky@lucy.cs.wisc.edu'" Subject: RE: Northwestern Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 13:02:00 PDT Message-ID: <31867491@mail.univbkstr.com> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >I don't think anyone is saying Northwestern is unbeatable... but you have >to admit, they have been a big thorn in our sides. They beat us often >enough and usually give us a run for our money in the first half. Barnett >is a decent coach, and unlike Alvarez (and I hate to say this), he is >very willing to change the gameplan to fit the teams and the situation. I did hear coach Alvarez say that he is going to gear up for run type offenses differently from last year. He has toyed with the idea of moving Daryl Carter to SS when playing run type offenses. In effect he will try to stack the line with 4 linemen and 4 linebackers. Does this count as changing the game plan??? Tom From mtwcjeff@dataplusnet.com Tue Apr 30 13:24:51 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA08019 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:24:45 -0500 Received: from moon.dataplusnet.com (moon.dataplusnet.com [204.95.204.66]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20172 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:24:42 -0500 Received: from [204.95.204.112] (sky112.dataplusnet.com [204.95.204.112]) by moon.dataplusnet.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA22042 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:58:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604301858.NAA22042@moon.dataplusnet.com> X-Sender: mtwcjeff@moon.dataplusnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:31:24 -0600 To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: mtwcjeff@dataplusnet.com (Jeff) Subject: END THIS THREAD!!! (Was: Non-sports......who's web page was it?) >Frankly, I think I speak for many when I say: "I don't care!!" > >I think this list has improved tremendously over the past year, and >some of that credit needs to go to Brian. I urge him to stay >involved and keep up the good work. > >Jon Actually Jon, I emailed him that I think he should stay on. As many problems that Brian and I have had, a list should not go unmoderated and I do believe that he is doing a good job (Wait....What job?) Jeff:-) From mtwcjeff@dataplusnet.com Tue Apr 30 13:40:29 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA08417 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:40:17 -0500 Received: from moon.dataplusnet.com (moon.dataplusnet.com [204.95.204.66]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20602 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:40:16 -0500 Received: from [204.95.204.112] (sky112.dataplusnet.com [204.95.204.112]) by moon.dataplusnet.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22171 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:13:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604301913.OAA22171@moon.dataplusnet.com> X-Sender: mtwcjeff@moon.dataplusnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:46:57 -0600 To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: mtwcjeff@dataplusnet.com (Jeff) Subject: Re: FB schedule >Mike Kilbey said: > >>I seem to recall a 1996 Football Schedule being posted some time ago. If >>anybody has that handy and would post it to me, I'd appreciate it. > >>Let's see, this year the dreaded gopher comes to Camp Randall right? Yes....Minnesota is at Wisconsin....I believe sometime in October. >I'm not nearly as concerned about Minnesota as I am UNLV. I think the losses >to MN were a mental thing and that's basically by the wayside. Routes by the >Cardinal & White ought to become rather commonplace in the "Border Battle" >from >now on. Actually, I think Minnesota will always be to Wisconsin as Green Bay is to San Fran. Even when the Packers weren't the greatest, they always found a way to hang in there and beat them. Same thing for Minnesota-Wisconsin. Is Carl McCollaugh(sp?) a Junior or a Senior this year? I'm sure if he's a Junior he can't wait to play up at the Dome again. Also, what does everybody think of new recruit Sam Mueller (QB/LB, Fond Du Lac St. Mary Springs)? I've had the chance to play against him and he's a good athlete. One thing though......I don't know if it comes from playing for Bob Hyland or if it's just him but he's a real cheapshot artist. Reason being.....Our star running Back rolled out left to block for our FB, he was 15 yards down the field, THREE players were holding him up and Mueller came in and nailed him right at the knees. Sour grapes I know but considering that we were a team that was supposed to win the championship and then Mueller pulls that.... Another example that I've heard about (didn't see it) was Jim Zuleger in the fall 1994 season....Last game and Mueller knocked him out of the game. Does anyone remember where Zuleger went? Well......just my observations:-) Does anyone think that Northwestern will be nearly as good as last year? I'll finally admit it....From what I've heard, Minnesota won't compete for the Big Ten crown this year BUT NEXT YEAR..... The big test in '97 will be UCLA at their place. Sorry I missed it if it was posted but who has Bennett signed so far? They would have had a good chance this year had Rashard stayed in. Does anyone think that Dick Bennett might bring in Tony Bennett as an assistant? I'm sure he would work great with the guards. Jeff:-) From mtwcjeff@dataplusnet.com Tue Apr 30 13:43:01 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA08468 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:42:20 -0500 Received: from moon.dataplusnet.com (moon.dataplusnet.com [204.95.204.66]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20632 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:42:18 -0500 Received: from [204.95.204.112] (sky112.dataplusnet.com [204.95.204.112]) by moon.dataplusnet.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22217; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604301915.OAA22217@moon.dataplusnet.com> X-Sender: mtwcjeff@moon.dataplusnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:48:53 -0600 To: Dave_Neperud-CDN004@email.mot.com From: mtwcjeff@dataplusnet.com (Jeff) Subject: Re: Donny Eicher Cc: bucky@cs.wisc.edu >I heard a report that LB Donny Eicher hurt his knee in the spring game and >will miss next season. Can anybody confirm this? If so,it's too bad. If I remember correctly they said he's out for the year. Luckily for him, he still has his redshirt year to use so I guess this will be the year..... From mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu Tue Apr 30 16:39:33 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA14708 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from eng.clemson.edu (eng.clemson.edu [130.127.200.5]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA25018 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:39:15 -0500 Received: from [130.127.222.110] (mkilbey_mac) by eng.clemson.edu (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA28296; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:35:58 -0400 X-Sender: mkilbey@ces.clemson.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:38:56 -0400 To: tglaser@univbkstr.com From: mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu (Michael Kilbey) Subject: RE: Northwestern Cc: Bucky Badger s Followers At 4:02 PM 4/30/96, Tom Glaser wrote: > >I did hear coach Alvarez say that he is going to gear up for run type >offenses differently from last year. He has toyed with the idea of >moving Daryl Carter to SS when playing run type offenses. In effect he >will try to stack the line with 4 linemen and 4 linebackers. Does this >count as changing the game plan??? > >Tom Wow -- that would be very savage. If I remember correctly, Carter was a safety converted to LB. That guy just smokes people whenever he's got the chance, and while he looks undersized for an LB, he certainly has the tenacity. He put some wicked hits on some folks last year. The one thing that always sticks out in my mind about him though, is that he sure likes to display those abs no matter how cold it is or whether he's on grass or turf. M -------------------------------------------- S. Michael Kilbey II Assistant Professor Department of Chemical Engineering Clemson University Clemson, SC 29634-0909 phone: (864)656-5423 fax: (864)656-0784 From mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu Tue Apr 30 16:51:51 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA15005 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:51:27 -0500 Received: from eng.clemson.edu (eng.clemson.edu [130.127.200.5]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA25314 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:51:22 -0500 Received: from [130.127.222.110] (mkilbey_mac) by eng.clemson.edu (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA28051; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:29:57 -0400 X-Sender: mkilbey@ces.clemson.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:33:06 -0400 To: Chuck_Sackett@dgii.com From: mike.kilbey@ces.clemson.edu (Michael Kilbey) Subject: Re: FB schedule Cc: Bucky Badgers Followers At 4:32 PM 4/29/96, Chuck J Sackett/Minneapolis/US/DGII wrote: >Mike Kilbey said: > >>I seem to recall a 1996 Football Schedule being posted some time ago. If >>anybody has that handy and would post it to me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks H.M. for posting that -- its on the office door. >>Let's see, this year the dreaded gopher comes to Camp Randall right? > >I'm not nearly as concerned about Minnesota as I am UNLV. I think the losses >to MN were a mental thing and that's basically by the wayside. Routes by the >Cardinal & White ought to become rather commonplace in the "Border Battle" >from >now on. "Border Battle?" -- that's just one of those monikers cooked up by our-pals-of-half-full stadiums to increase attendance. For years and years the rivalries were Illinois and Iowa in football and North Dakota in hockey. We don't have 'border battles' with those schools. And we don't need them to raise the fan and player enthusiasm. Border Battle - schmorder schmattle. As for your assessment of who's hot and who's not -- absolutely. No gripe from me. Can we say we've turned to corner? -M From jadopke@students.wisc.edu Tue Apr 30 17:21:03 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA16169 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:20:55 -0500 Received: from audumla.students.wisc.edu (students.wisc.edu [144.92.104.66]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA26447 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:20:53 -0500 Received: from [144.92.91.245] by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id RAA70874; 8.6.9W/42; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:20:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199604302220.RAA70874@audumla.students.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:18:41 -0600 To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: jadopke@students.wisc.edu (Joel A. Dopke) Subject: hockey recruits Just curious as to whether or not anybody out there has seen a report on the incoming hockey recruiting class from an analyst outside of Madison or Milwaukee. Everything I've seen indicates that this particular class has a lot of talent and players with blue collar attitudes, but that's from a local bias. Keep an eye on Alex Brooks who played juniors with Green Bay last season. He's really creative and a take charge sort of player. Joel From jadopke@students.wisc.edu Tue Apr 30 23:04:16 1996 Received: from lucy.cs.wisc.edu (lucy.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.11]) by sea.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA24137 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:04:11 -0500 Received: from audumla.students.wisc.edu (students.wisc.edu [144.92.104.66]) by lucy.cs.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA02579 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:04:10 -0500 Received: from [144.92.91.245] by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id XAA05163; 8.6.9W/42; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:04:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199605010404.XAA05163@audumla.students.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:01:57 -0600 To: bucky@cs.wisc.edu From: jadopke@students.wisc.edu (Joel A. Dopke) In reply to Jeff.... Northwestern had a dream season last year in many regards 1...They drew the majority of their toughest opponents at home (Michigan excluded) 2...They got a lot of breaks and didn't turn the ball over. 3...No injuries. Even when Fitz-what's-his-name got hurt at the end of the year they didn't miss him because the middle LB spot in their defense is a product of the defense (everything is funneled to him or held up for his pursuit). Will they do it again? Not a chance. 1...Reverse the schedule. Iowa, PSU, and an improved Wisconsin (Notre Dame?) on the road means there won't be a repeat of last season's record. Michigan won't be a pansy even in Evanston. 2...There's no way the injury bug will stay away two years straight. 3...No recruiting depth. Even with as good a year as the Wildcats had, they still rate in the bottom half of the Big 11's recruiting classes. 4...Look at the Badgers. They had all of the positives listed above going for them in '93, but haven't been able to repeat for some of the same reasons (highlight the breaks and turnovers here). Just my opinion. But then, I'm with Rob. NU sucks. Joel